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Really pissed off!!!

cnsheets

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SORRY FOR SHORT STORY MADE WAY TO LONG.......just very pissed off.

(CORY, feel free to forward these pictures to Mark, the regional service rep handling my case. I can give you his extension and case #)

So I took my EX into the dealership last Monday to fix 3 TSB issues (window streaks, Bubbly black out tape, A-pillar's) and to have them look at the rear interior plastic quarter panel piece because it looked like a clip or two were not attached making it protrude out from the C-pillar. (this is the plastic interior moulding piece that sits to the right of the 3rd row passenger and has the cup holders built in and extends to the rear of the vehicle from bottom floor to the window)

So they first tell me no problem getting the parts overnighted and have it done next day. (Cory assisted in getting me hooked up with regional customer service dept because of past issues with this dealerships service department), they also hook me up with a rental car, lovely Nissan Versa. I tell them that the TSB was just released on the A-pillar issue and parts may be scarce. Dealship says no problem, we will get them.

Next day dealership tells me that the rear quarter panel interior piece needs to be replaced because all the clips are intact and it was just moulded all warped and will not sit flush. Ok, no problem. Dealership tells me they have Ford authorization to fix everything and parts should be in on Thursday.

Thursday comes around, dealership only recieved some parts and hope final parts come in on Friday but would start the work with what parts they do have.

Friday (5 days after dropping the vehicle off) dealership says that they have everything except A-pillar parts and hope they will be in on Monday. So they tell me that for Friday they will finish replacing the rear quarter panel interior piece and do the window streak fix. They also kindly upgraded me from the roomy Nissan Versa to a fabulous Dodge Journey that had an incredible built in massage option when ever I applied the brakes(read as warped brake rotors). This was because I would have all my kids over the weekend.

So at this point, I am still "okay" with where we stand even though it has taken a bit longer than expected, although I knew it wouldn't be next day despite the dealership saying so.

Monday, dealer ship calls late in the day, no A-pillar parts, on back order till February 7th, Really? didn't I say something about parts being scarce 7 days ago???? So they tell me that the body shop is scheduled to fix the bubbly black out tape first thing in the morning on Tuesday and other than the A-pillar fix, EVERYTHING WAS DONE FRIDAY.

Ok, whatever, I can live with that......THEN.....

Tuesday, dealership call about 3pm and says blackout tape is done and everything is complete with the exception of the A-pillar fix due to parts being on back order. Dealship said they are just going to give it a quick wash and to come pick it up.....first though, WOW, first time they have ever washed a vehicle that I have taken into them, thanks Cory, had to be because of him :)

So, at the dealership, they bring the vehicle out, I give it a quick once over on the exterior. Seems ok. Head home (live 10 minutes away from dealership)

Then I remember, oh wait, they replaced the interior quarter panel piece, let me check it out......DUMMY ME SHOULD HAVE REMEMBERED AND CHECKED IT OUT AT THE DEALERSHIP.

THIS IS WHAT I FIND......

Two screws missing (ones used to also attach the optional cargo net to)

Plastic piece that surrounds the lower portion of the 3rd row seatbelt missing(found it in the cup holder area for the driver side 3rd row passenger)

Passenger side cup holder assembly loose and barely sitting in the quarter panel

So, not too pissed yet, thinking ok, just a couple plastic pieces.....Then I become LIVID (keep in mind I have 6 children so there are kids in EVERY SEAT)....They obviously had to disconnect the lower seatbelt anchor in order to replace the interior plastic quarter panel. THE SEATBELT WAS NOT ANCHORED TO THE VEHICLE!!! It was started and being held in place by literally 3 threads!! It took me three quarter turns of the anchor bolt for it to pop off.....REALLY!!???!! What if one of my kids were sitting in that seat and god forbid there was an accident?? Its certain that seatbelt would have given way and one of my kids would have become a human projectile. How in the hell do you give back a vehicle to a customer with such an obvious blatant safety issue like that!!??!! Where the hell is the checks and balances so ensure that this type of crap doesn't happen??!!

THIS IS MY CHILDRENS LIVES!!!!!

Yes I immediately went straight back to the dealership and laid into the service advisor about the safety aspect of it and how they could give back a vehicle like that. I also immediately called the regional customer service rep that Cory hooked me up with and more politely laid into him about the dealership and the safety issue as well. They both agreed it should have never of happened....BUT IT DID!! Luckily they did forget to put that cover piece of plastic over the seatbelt mount or I may have NEVER SEEN IT and had a false sense of security for my children.

Heres some pictures, on the closeup of the seatbelt anchor (last picture), notice how long the anchor bolt is and where the bracket is supposed to snug tightly against. Tell me if you would trust your child being secured by that seatbelt.


CUP HOLDER
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PLASTIC PIECE THAT COVERS SEATBELT ANCHOR
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PLASTIC SCREW
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PLEASTIC SCREW
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SEATBELT ANCHOR pic 1
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SEATBELT ANCHOR pic 2
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SEATBELT ANCHOR pic 3
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wow luckily you caught, i would have had the same reaction! was there anything else done besides an apology?
 






Wow. That is totally unacceptable. What was their response?
 






Service advisor only said "sorry, it shouldn't have happened, I'll take care of it right now" then took the vehicle in back, 20 minutes later he brought it back out and I checked it out, and he said "sorry" again and said that he should have checked it himself.....and that was it. The regional ford customer rep is supposed to call me back tomorrow morning and then he was going to call the service director at that dealership about it.

At that point I was really in a bad state of mind and had to get out of there before the situation got worse.......totally unacceptable, just thankful they also forgot to put the plastic cover on so I was actually able to catch it.

I just keep thinking about the kids and "what if".......
 






That is definitely not good. Agreed, good thing they were lax about the screws and moldings, I dont see how you woulod have seen that bolt loose with the cover on.
 






holy cow. NEVER would I bring the car back to that dealership. Totally unacceptable.
 






I dont see how you woulod have seen that bolt loose with the cover on.

Exactly, I wouldn't have, and I would have been driving around with a false sense of security and putting my kids at risk every minute!
 






You have far more patience then some of the rest of us. Reminds me a little of a quote from Portal 2: "When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad!...Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons..."
I think that after waiting that long I would have been a lot more mad, BEFORE the fact of them possibly endangering your children. Going to a dealership, you'd expect that they would remember the fact that they unbolted the anchor.

Good thing you caught it before, like you said, god forbid anything happened.
 






That really sucks!

What is the deal with these dealerships??? They need to start paying more attention to detail! I have a story of my own. Yesterday, I had my wife take our 2011 in for streaky windows, and squeaky brakes. Both covered under service bulletins. I even took the time to print those out so she could take them with her and give to the service advisor. (According to her, he didn't even want to look at them). So, after having the vehicle for about 5 hours, they did take care of a sync update, but called and stated that the brake pads look good, (no squeeks), and they cleaned up the grease on the outside of the windows. Now, for those of us who have this issue know that the streaks are on the inside of the windows (which was stated to them by my wife, and noted as such on the workorder)!! So, I pick the vehicle up 10 mintues after the service department closed, immediately rolled down both windows to find the lovely grease streaks still showing up. Then put the vehicle in reverse, rolled 5 feet, hit the brakes, and what do you know-sqeeeeeek! Verry pissed! Now, we have to spend more time dealing with this today!
 












What is the deal with these dealerships??? They need to start paying more attention to detail!
......put the vehicle in reverse, rolled 5 feet, hit the brakes, and what do you know-sqeeeeeek! Verry pissed! Now, we have to spend more time dealing with this today!
Is this a constant problem and only when backing up? I don't drive mine every day and sometimes hear a soft sqeek when lightly applying the brakes while backing down the driveway, but that is the only time I've heard it and then not every time. I just assumed it was due to the Winter conditions and because it has been in the garage 2 or 3 days.
BTW, my dealership washes and drys the Explorer everytime I bring it in.:thumbsup: They also follow up with a phone call asking if I was satisfied with the service provided. I also received a survey from Ford of Canada asking me to comment on my last service apointment with the dealership.

cnsheets, I would definitely look for another dealership. Did you by chance mention it to your salesman? I'm sure that he doesn't want to lose a customer because of another departments incompetance.

Peter
 






wow ... I can't believe they would let a vehicle leave the shop like that. Total incompetence. People wonder why I prefer to change my own oil!? :)

As others have suggested, I think I'd think about not going back to that particular dealership.
 






Is this a constant problem and only when backing up? I don't drive mine every day and sometimes hear a soft sqeek when lightly applying the brakes while backing down the driveway, but that is the only time I've heard it and then not every time. I just assumed it was due to the Winter conditions and because it has been in the garage 2 or 3 days.
BTW, my dealership washes and drys the Explorer everytime I bring it in.:thumbsup: They also follow up with a phone call asking if I was satisfied with the service provided. I also received a survey from Ford of Canada asking me to comment on my last service apointment with the dealership.

cnsheets, I would definitely look for another dealership. Did you by chance mention it to your salesman? I'm sure that he doesn't want to lose a customer because of another departments incompetance.

Peter

It comes and goes, but it's been doing it for quite some time now, (we're just now getting around to getting it serviced), and it's getting louder. But yes, it occurs in reverse while backing out of the garage. Weather doesn't really seem to affect it. Sounds like the dealer is going to take care of it now! I'll post the outcome!
 






What is the deal with these dealerships??? They need to start paying more attention to detail! I have a story of my own. Yesterday, I had my wife take our 2011 in for streaky windows, and squeaky brakes. Both covered under service bulletins. I even took the time to print those out so she could take them with her and give to the service advisor. (According to her, he didn't even want to look at them). So, after having the vehicle for about 5 hours, they did take care of a sync update, but called and stated that the brake pads look good, (no squeeks), and they cleaned up the grease on the outside of the windows. Now, for those of us who have this issue know that the streaks are on the inside of the windows (which was stated to them by my wife, and noted as such on the workorder)!! So, I pick the vehicle up 10 mintues after the service department closed, immediately rolled down both windows to find the lovely grease streaks still showing up. Then put the vehicle in reverse, rolled 5 feet, hit the brakes, and what do you know-sqeeeeeek! Verry pissed! Now, we have to spend more time dealing with this today!

I had my brakes "fixed" per the TSB on the issue. Guess what, 1000 miles later and they are squealing again.
 












Service advisor only said "sorry, it shouldn't have happened, I'll take care of it right now" then took the vehicle in back, 20 minutes later he brought it back out and I checked it out, and he said "sorry" again and said that he should have checked it himself.....and that was it. The regional ford customer rep is supposed to call me back tomorrow morning and then he was going to call the service director at that dealership about it...
cnsheets,

I already forwarded this to Mark (including photos). Your family’s safety is very important, so I’m glad that you and your dealer were able to get it resolved. I’m available via PM if you ever need me to lend a hand.

It comes and goes, but it's been doing it for quite some time now, (we're just now getting around to getting it serviced), and it's getting louder. But yes, it occurs in reverse while backing out of the garage. Weather doesn't really seem to affect it. Sounds like the dealer is going to take care of it now! I'll post the outcome!
strick23,

I want to help by arranging a call from the Customer Service Manager in your area. I have your Explorer’s VIN from previous messages, so please send a PM with your contact info, mileage, and dealer name/state.

I had my brakes "fixed" per the TSB on the issue. Guess what, 1000 miles later and they are squealing again.
I still have your Explorer’s details, harlenm; shoot me a message and I’ll be happy to set up a follow-up.

Cory
 






cnsheets,

I already forwarded this to Mark (including photos). Your family’s safety is very important, so I’m glad that you and your dealer were able to get it resolved. I’m available via PM if you ever need me to lend a hand.


strick23,

I want to help by arranging a call from the Customer Service Manager in your area. I have your Explorer’s VIN from previous messages, so please send a PM with your contact info, mileage, and dealer name/state.


I still have your Explorer’s details, harlenm; shoot me a message and I’ll be happy to set up a follow-up.

Cory

Cory, thanks for the help. I did already speak with the Sevice Manager and he has been very helpful thus far in taking care of our issues!
 






I still have your Explorer’s details, harlenm; shoot me a message and I’ll be happy to set up a follow-up.

Cory

Nah, I'll live with it, it's the least of my concerns.
 






Cory, thanks for the help. I did already speak with the Sevice Manager and he has been very helpful thus far in taking care of our issues!
That’s what I like to hear, strick23. :D

Nah, I'll live with it, it's the least of my concerns.
OK, harlenm; shoot me a message if you change your mind.

Cory
 



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"quarter panel interior piece needs to be replaced because all the clips are intact and it was just moulded all warped and will not sit flush."
Well throw quality control out the window!
 






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