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Regarding oil, would 10W30 work

mustangman

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Will be 2004 XLT
I plan on doing my own oil changes and was wondering if the viscosity differnece between 5w30 and 10w30 will be a negative to my engine. The truck is an XLT with 4.0L. I have looked at Canadian Tire and Wallmart and could not find 5w30 oil. What do you all think. Will 10w30 be fine?
 



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Short and to the point. Works for me. I did do a thread search and found quite a few good threads. I was thinking of going to synthetic and changing the oil every 6 months. It's my wife's truck so it is primarily used for taking the kids to school and short trips. She puts approx 20,000 km (12,500 miles) a year. I don't think that would hurt either. From all the different points of view, I'm sure even using Quaker State 10-30 or 5w30 and changing every 6 months would still work. The important thing would be to check the oil every 3rd tank fill up make sure I'm not losing a serious amount and check the oil itself for grittyness. By the way I'm really starting to love this truck. I'm a mustang nut at heart, I drive a 2001 Bullitt, but I'm seriously considering a 2001 or newer Explorer Sport for a winter vehicle. Of course I have to pay off the wife's first.
 






10w30 will work just fine, remember it as well as 5w30 or even 0w30 is 30 weight oil.

Just curious, but why not use the recommended 5w30?
 






No 5-W-30?

I can't believe you can't find 5 w 30 in Richmond Hill. I would change to 5-W-30 in the winter if you go through with the switch to 10-W-30 though. Just my opinion.

Good luck
 






If I can find it I will. The 2 places I usually buy oil are Canadian Tire and Walmart. I'm just going to have to look harder. I could not find anything other than 10w30, 10w40, 20w50. The dealer has it but they charge almost twice what the 10w30 Quaker state goes for. I do use the FL-820 ford oil filter. I don't like after market. I had a bad experience with a filter with no bypass. I was told Walmart carries it just couldn't find it. I ask the employee (16 yr old student) not much help.
 






The answer is that ANY one can be used regardless if your vehicle owners manual says to use, for example, a 5W-30. "W" means winter. In winter weather the 0W oil will flow like a 0W oil, and the 5W will flow like a 5W oil and a 10W will flow like a 10W oil just until the engine warms up. In order to understand the differences one has to first understand that the numerical values given to these various weight oils are strictly empirical numbers. For example, 0W does not mean that the oil has no weight. That is one of the reasons why we say it is strictly an empirical number.

In order to determine the differences between the three oils one has to look at the kinematic viscosity of each lubricant. The kinematic viscosity is essentially the amount of time, in centistokes, that it takes for a specified volume of the lubricant to flow through a fixed diameter orifice at a given temperature.
0W-30 is 57.3 cST @ 40 deg. C, & 11.3 cST @ 100 deg. C
5W-30 is 59.5 cST @ 40 deg. C, & 11.7 cST @ 100 deg. C
10W-30 is 66.1 cST @ 40 deg. C, & 11.7 cST @ 100 deg. C
As you can see from the data above the kinematic viscosities are extremely close. Therefore, whether you use the 0W-30, 5W-30 or the 10W-30 is strictly a matter of choice. With the small differences in kinematic viscosity you would be hard-pressed to detect these differences on initial engine start-up without specialized engine test equipment.

Any one can be used in a vehicle which requires either a 0W-30, 5W-30 or 10W-30 oil as well as in several other engine applications including an engine which recommends a 5W- 20 oil.

This leads to the next topic: many people also ask us if the 0W-30 is too thin a viscosity oil for high ambient temperature operation. The answer is absolutely not! Thicker viscosity oils are not always necessarily better since in addition to its' various engine lubrication functions, an oil must also effectively transfer heat. Only about 60% of an engines cooling is performed by the engine coolant, and only on the upper half of the engine. The remaining 40% of an engines cooling is performed mainly by the engine oil.

Although a vehicle that is recommended to use a 30 weight oil can also use a 40 weight oil, it is usually not needed. You will gain absolutely no benefit from using a thicker viscosity oil if it is not needed. The only time we recommend a 40 weight oil to a customer in a passenger car or light truck application is if the vehicle's engine is excessively worn and consumes oil at a higher than normal rate or if the vehicle is being used for very severe duty, high load, high temperature applications

I hope this brief discussion has answered your questions. If I have not sufficiently answered your questions or if you would like an additional explanation or recommendation for your specific application please email me.
 






Wow :eek: good answer. To take a line from one of my favorite movies : "Check out the big brain on FL oil Guy" Thanks for the info. I knew the first number had to do with flow quality on start up. At least now I know 5w30 or 10w30 will be as good as each other.
 






0W-30 is 57.3 cST @ 40 deg. C, & 11.3 cST @ 100 deg. C
5W-30 is 59.5 cST @ 40 deg. C, & 11.7 cST @ 100 deg. C
10W-30 is 66.1 cST @ 40 deg. C, & 11.7 cST @ 100 deg. C

Thats fine if you are in Florida, :thumbsup: but what about up north here where it gets to be -40deg C .in the winter :thumbdwn:

Do you have the same info for colder temps .
 






No matter how many things I can fix myself,or how educated I think I am, I will never be smarter than Mr. Ford! If the manual says to run 5w30, run 5w30 if it says 10w 30, run 10w 30. Generally most engines can use diferent oils to adapt to the enviroment and conditions in which they are operating in. Up here I would recomend 5w30 in the winter, and 10w30 in the summer. Sure 10w30 would do just fine, but it is pretty thick at -15to -40.
 






Kinematic viscosity (ASTM D-455) is the fluids resistance to flow and is determined at either 40 degrees c (104 degrees f) which is typical compressor oil and gear lubricants and/or 100 degrees c (212 degrees f) which is typical motor oils. It is an industry standard used for testing.

SAE Viscosity Grade and outdoor Temperatures

mineral oil (petroleum) not true for 100 % synthetics
15w-40 -10 deg F to over 100 deg F
10w-30 -20 deg F to over 100 deg F
5w-30 -30 deg. F to over 100 deg. F
0w-30 beyond -30 deg. F to over 100 deg. F

POUR POINT refers to the low temperature condition in which an oil loses virtually all its ability to flow.
ASTM D-97 March 7 2003
Gasoline engine oil comparision (SAE 5W-30)

Quaker State Peak Performance -36 deg. F
Castrol GTX -38 deg. F
Mobile Drive Clean -38 deg. F
Motorcraft Super Premium -40 deg . F
Phillips Trop Artic -40 deg. F
Valvoline -41 deg. F
Pennzoil -45 deg. F
ASL -60 deg. F
 






The 10W-30 I use pour tests down to -65 degF. And what's the point of switching from 5W to 10W by season? If it were me I would start at a low visc and stick with it year-round and be done with it. In Ontario that would probably be 0W-30 or 5W-30.
 












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