Running amp to speakers and tweeters??

[Asugolf14]

How do you run an amp to your front and rear speakers?? Can and should you run an amp to tweeters?? Thanks

 

[SpiderGear]

personally i run my rear outs on my radio to 2 amps for the subs and i run an equalizer/booster to the front and tweeters ...that way you can setup your radio fader up so you can adjust the

bass and the speaker/tweeters individualy and because i run my front outs to the equalizer i can adjust the front and back equally, ok now here's the trick ,the equalizer also got an fader on it so i hooked the front of the equalizer to the tweeters and the rear outs to the mid- tone speakers...

so in an matter of speaking i have 2 faders now and now i can adjust every speaker individually, wich makes it even sound better you could that way also power an 4 channel amp using the equalizer 4 outs (rear and front) and boost the tweeters and midtones...

i hope this ain't getting to confusing...lol

btw be carefull with putting amps on tweeters, these are the most fragile speakers you can have and they don't take abuse easy, they will be ruined pretty easy...

 

[Asugolf14]

What I am wondering though is how do you run your amp to the front and rear speekers? I probably won't run my amp to my tweeters now, since they are so fragile. Thanks-

 

[SpiderGear]

my setup is this :

JVC 838 wich has 4 channels front and rear/sub
I have coupled an equalizer booster to the system , wich also has 4 channels ,

so i don't have 8 but 6 channels(since i use 1 output to steer the booster)

the rear/sub on the radio goes to 2 amp wich power my earthquakes. the front our of the radio goes to the input of the booster.

then the booster (wich has 4 channels) can devide the front and rear. or tweeters and mids, whatever you want to name it.

basicly if you want to amplify all 3 sets you will have to go with either 2 amps one of them being an 4 channel ,wich you can use to power the tweeters and the mid toners and an seperate 2 channel for the subs.

 

[JTang]

I'm a little confused about your question, but I'm assuming you are asking the routes to use from the amp to the speakers? If it's mounted in the back, just tuck the wire under the carpet, free from and metal hinge areas that might damage it. Along the door sills, you can undo the step guards, and underneath a brown/black snap in panel (can be removed with a screwdriver) is a channel for running wires all down the car. From there you can run them up to the kick panels that you can take off, then fish the wires through with a coat hanger through the rubber accordian hose thing to your speakers. I would break down $2 and get some plastic loom, as there are some areas where the metal edges are a little roucg, and you could use it to protect, like behind the kick panels running into the doors.

In response to your other question about tweeters directly to an amp, it depends. In most cases, I'd say no, don't do it unless you really know what you're doing. If you're not careful as Spidergear said you'll blow them out, and you'll probably end up paying more for nothing unless you really know your car audio and math/physics, etc and it might sound worse. If you get a component set, it's usually already set up with a crossover to manage the division of sound in the best way possible for the average car. Most people who amp tweets and mids separately do so because they mix and match what they think is best, and usually dump a crossover. If your set has an inline crossover, then you shouldn't do it anyway. If you amp the tweets separately, you're usually buying a third party crossover, or having to adjust the amp's internal crossover yourself, or straight making your own. If you want to try to make your own there are plenty of sites to help you out on that though.

Jon

 

[Asugolf14]

JTang-That is what I wanted to know. Now, if I have a component set with crossovers, should I amp the speakers or not?? Does the crossover help with that too, or just the tweeters?? Thanks for the info!!

 

[JTang]

You should amp the components as a set, but you don't have to do it separately. The crossover also benefits the mids, not just the tweeter, as it keeps the mids from trying to go too high or too low as well. They are made differently, with different rolloffs so that they should blend smoothly with that specific tweeter, with the assumption that the tweets are installed in a good place as the mids.

If you have a component set already you should just keep it the way that they recommend. Usually this means from the amp, it goes to the component set's crossover, and then the crossover wired to both the tweeter and midrange. If you have an inline crossover (no little crossover box) then you should keep it as is.

The crossover will help block out the frequencies for the speakers to help protect them and divide up the sound for better speaker response (tweets not trying to play lows, mids not trying to play highs). That is why it's easiest to use the given crossover rather than amp them all separately and try to use the amp's internal crossover yourself. At most, if you have an amp, you'll just set it to hi-pass just in case, but I don't think it'll make a difference. The next thing is just not to overpower the speakers, and you'll be fine.

Hard core audio people feel that the best control is with amps to each tweeter and mid, so that they can control the gain/loudness of every component as well as the frequencies played, either with an EQ or the amp's own x-over. This is because they might like the sound of the mid, but not the highs, etc, so they want it "perfect" to their ear that all being opinion. If you really wanted to try it out, I'd say go for it, but might as well try the recommended way first, cause:

1 you'll save yourself two amp channels to power other speakers!

2 the box will have the total RMS power of the speaker components, but if you don't know the RMS of the mids and tweets separately, you'll have to ask and find out.

3 there's no guarantee it'll sound better separately amped.


Regards,

Jon

 

[SpiderGear]

the way i got it set up is that i can change the tones on them together , it's just that i can adjust the loudness seperate, see the tweeter if installed good send the music striaght to you, in other words they are facing towards you, where the mid tones are usaully in the door and have to have more volume to be heared good, that's why i got an eq between them, so i can adjust the tones and the volume of the tweeters.mids.

pluss i can filter ALL the bass out of the speakers wich make it sound more clear...and it won;t distort easy on higher volume levels

 

[Asugolf14]

Ok, thanks for all the info. I am probably just going to try running my amp to the crossover first and see what that sounds like. If I don't like it, I'll ask for some more info. Thanks!!