Supercharger install 9+lb boost! Full build

[vroomzoomboom]

I noticed there are two types of 90 mm lightning maf sensors
A ford unit
For Ford F150 SVT Lightning & Mustang Cobra New OEM Mass Airflow Sensor MAF GAP | eBay

Ford Performance Mustang 90mm Mass Air Meter / Sensor M-12579-L54 (96-04 4.6L)

FREE SHIPPING! Flows More Air. AmericanMuscle now offers the Ford Racing 90mm Lightning Mass Air Meter. The Ford Racing 90MM Mass Air Meter is great for modifie

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Or a Sct unit.

SCT BA-2600 Mass Air Meter 90mm for Ford Mustang/F-150 Lightning/Harley | eBay

not sure how keen you are with used parts, but you might or should be able to find either or of those throttle bodys on corral.net. i found my lightning maf, injectors and fuel pump there and have had no issues

 

[CDW6212R]

Ditto, most popular parts can be found for a little less from forums or eBay etc. If the price is not a lot lower than new, I then tend to take the new part when I have to have it.

 

[donalds]

I was gonna buy new
Just not sure what is the best sensor to go with
Sct or oem

 

[CDW6212R]

Those are the top two best choices.

 

[vroomzoomboom]

my personal opinion if you dont mind spending a little more cash, sct.

 

[donalds]

my personal opinion if you dont mind spending a little more cash, sct.

That seems to be the consciences
I'm trying to get a very good idea of my parts list
That way lasota can kinda approve or change it
I already have the #47 injectors so I hope that won't be a problem

 

[94Eddie]

Yea I'm seeing that... Now lol been looking to do this swap on different cars still looking into it I'm going to see if they got one of these chargers around pfft idk with the prices might look at a different project anyways why are the superchargers I have found at the junkyard seem to be no good? I was assuming heat but now I'm thinking oil. That's totally different I'm thinking he won't actually have any heat issues on the supercharger itself.

Roots and twin screw superchargers are fairly durable. This is why they are used by the manufacturers. If the oil in them is changed every 50k miles or so they typically last 150k-200k miles or longer. Check into rebuilding them. It might not be that hard or expensive to do. Especially for Roots blowers.

 

[94Eddie]

Ok guys
I am following the moddbox 9.5 psi build
This configuration is running on mustang rangers with this engine
The #47 injectors are still in the box with the adapters
The throttle body is bigger than my stock but is a stock tb from a 2005 ranger as the moddbox guy said to use for the boost I'm looking to run
I'm gonna ask lasota about the Maf most likely a lightning maf 90mm
Here is the meth water kit I'm looking at

Water Methanol Injection Kit DV-30 - ModdBox

Check this kit out! From us to you, this is the DevilsOwn© second-generation water–methanol injection controller. This kit features a built in 30 psi map sensor. We want you to have an easy time with this so you can have more time burning tires then reading instructions. To hook this up, run...

modd.me

I can put the spray nozzle before or after the blower I was gonna move THE air intake sensor to directly under the blower as their is a pipe plug their now

It sure would be great if @moddbox cold give a Maf suggestions because well he built the kit lol

The water/methanol kit looks pretty good. It has customization for onset and full pressure which helps a lot for dialing it in during tuning. Although with a Roots blower full boost happens so fast that the onset setting is irrelevant. It does help when you are rolling into the boost during less spirited driving. Why I chose a twin screw blower was for the instant full boost it generates and any RPM which makes an engine feel like a built big block.

One thing that helps is setting up a temperature probe in the intake track after the blower and after the spray point. This can give real time info that helps dial in the spray setting and which nozzle to use. I used a dual temp digital thermometer and had someone monitor temp reading under boost. These days I imagine there are ones that will log temps and not cost an arm and a leg to buy. Lasota is a great tuner so they should get it all dialed in right for you.

 

[94Eddie]

I recently made the decision to not intercool nor would I use meth/water injection for my daily driver. At least no intercooling for a while.

Intercooling may happen, but would require I make a custom unit and a transfer case upgrade to hold-up to the power.

I do not want to rely on meth/water injection for cooling on a daily basis. My rig does run in boost for long periods when climbing to the west out of Denver and would require a good sized tank. I think it would be an additional thing to go wrong and to deal with for a daily driver. My engine is worth more to me than what would happen at higher boost levels if an inexpensive meth/water injection crapped-out...............................and I was only gaining a few pounds of boost to run it in the first place!

I installed a J&S Safeguard in my 5.0L and swear by them. They work incredibly well. They control timing on an individual cylinder basis and adjust timing to each cylinder each time it fires depending on if detonation occurs in that cylinder. I bought mine in the late 1990s so J&S been around a long time. If you are concerned with keeping your engine safe from detonation then this is a good way to do it. These units cover any situation that can cause detonation like bad O2 sensors, bad gas, carbon buildup etc. as well as running more aggressive tunes.

J&S Electronics SafeGuard Indivdual Cylinder Knock Control

 

[donalds]

Thanks for all that advice guys
I'm enjoying this thread and all the side talk to
Keep it up

 

[donalds]

Orders parts today

stage 2 boost cooler™ forced induction progressive engine mount water-methanol injection kit (red high temp nylon tubing, quick-connect fittings)

keep those boost temps down with the boost cooler™! the snow performance stage 2 boost cooler™ water methanol injection kit is available for all forced induction applications (supercharged/turbocharged) and uses a progressive controller with built in manifold absolute pressure (map) sensor that...

www.nitrousexpress.com

SCT's Big Air MAF Meters 2600

SCT's Big Air MAF Meters are great for modified vehicles where the stock mass air meter "pegs" due to increased airflow. SCT's Big Air MAF Meters feature OEM quality calibration for factory level drivability, repeated accuracy, and reliability. The BA2600 90mm MAF Meter supports 400rwhp to...

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[donalds]

9.5psi Supercharger Pulley - ModdBox

This is a 2.64″ Diameter designed for the standard 6-grooved poly-rib belt. It produces a maximum of 9.5 psi at 5500 rpm on the 4.0L V6 Cologne Engine using the late model Thunderbird Eaton M90. This pulley equipped with Anti-Slip Technology and is designed to fit any standard 6-Rib Poly-V...

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Ford IAT Relocation Kit - ModdBox

The Ford Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Relocation Kit is intended for boosted Ford gas applications. Many Ford tunes rely on accurate Intake Air Temperatures (IATs). If your vehicle is setup with forced induction, your air temperature will increase while being compressed in your supercharger or...

modd.me

I still have the ford racing #47 injectors

 

[Blown]

Oh ****, gonna go faster!

 

[donalds]

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You told us so

 

[CDW6212R]

Very good, those parts will help. The MAF I have someplace to use on one my projects, the same 2600 model.

 

[donalds]

Got some Parts. Maf and fuel injector connector s pigtails

 

[XploderPhil]

Man that maf looks huge , bet your getting excited.

 

[94Eddie]

Orders parts today

stage 2 boost cooler™ forced induction progressive engine mount water-methanol injection kit (red high temp nylon tubing, quick-connect fittings)

keep those boost temps down with the boost cooler™! the snow performance stage 2 boost cooler™ water methanol injection kit is available for all forced induction applications (supercharged/turbocharged) and uses a progressive controller with built in manifold absolute pressure (map) sensor that...

www.nitrousexpress.com

SCT's Big Air MAF Meters 2600

SCT's Big Air MAF Meters are great for modified vehicles where the stock mass air meter "pegs" due to increased airflow. SCT's Big Air MAF Meters feature OEM quality calibration for factory level drivability, repeated accuracy, and reliability. The BA2600 90mm MAF Meter supports 400rwhp to...

lasotaracing.com

Looks like you are going to find the weak link in your drive train. Been there, done that....... several times.

 

[donalds]

Man that maf looks huge , bet your getting excited.

That's what she said lmao
I really am this stuff is fun to me
And Jess my wife don't beat on it either
She likes to pass people

Keep in mind I've been working on this build for a while
I did a big mod once a year
First Year
was the trans full overhaul Inc hard parts shift kit and more
And rebuilt the rear diff
Second year
was the engine and any and all components needed metal thermostat housing sensors ect...
Year three
Supercharger installed
Year four
Electric fan conversion more boost a tune gauges ..
This is the final year

Then I'm gonna build one for my daughter

My son wants a dam Honda smh

 

[donalds]

Looks like you are going to find the weak link in your drive train. Been there, done that.......

Ok what did you break?
was it on this drive train?
Your getting me worried now
The hardest pulls will be the data logging and tuning