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Supposed problem with wheel bearings, hub housing?

iggyboo

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Hi, I'm new to the forum, my son suggested I find a forum like this to ask questions because I think a couple of different local mechanics are trying to take advantage of me and possibly rip me off.

I went to my regular mechanic a few weeks ago and they printed out a list of maintenance things that I needed to get done, like flushes and such, which were okay. However, they also mentioned that my front wheel bearings were "bad" and that I needed to get them repacked and quoted me about $150 to do that. Well, I used to think this particular mechanic was honest because they did save me several hundred dollars when a Pep Boys place tried to rip me off. That was a couple of different cars and several years ago and since that time, my faith in them has been shaken by a couple of different things that have happened recently.

So instead of just taking their word for it, I called around to get some different price quotes from other garages, including a place called City Garage that's supposedly AAA certified. They were less and so I took my vehicle to have a power steering flush done (which I was also told by the other mechanic needed to be done really soon). While there, I told them to check the front wheel bearings because of what the other mechanic had told me. They asked me questions about the brakes and if I had been having any problems with the brakes or the wheels, which I had not. I have not been having any problems with the drive or with the wheels squeeling or vibrating, absolutely nothing has even given me the appearance that anything was wrong.

So these guys come back and tell me that the whole front wheel hub housing needs to be replaced because on my particular model of car, you can't repack the bearings, they come in a housing unit and you have to replace the whole housing unit to replace the bearings. He even took me out to the garage and with the tires off, he put pressure on the disc wheel and wobbled it back and forth to show me it was loose. He did the same on the other front wheel, and showed me on the back that the back wheels were fine.

Now, to do all this was going to cost me $700, and the parts themselves were going to run about $242 for each wheel, plus labor, and they said it needed to be done immediately, that it was extremely dangerous for me to be driving on the wheels like they were. What's interesting is that there was no wobbling, no vibration, no noise, no NOTHING to even suggest there's a problem. I told them I didn't have $700 to do this job and they got very agitated with me when I told them to put my car back together without authorizing the work to be done.

I came home and told my son about the situation, he's a weekend mechanic and knows enough to make him dangerous, and his opinion was they were trying to rip me off because what they were telling me just didn't make any sense, that they could have very easily loosened the nut that holds the hub housing on to make the disc wobble back and forth like that, and the whole hub housing vs. repacking the bearings sounded fishy too.

First of all, the first mechanic would have known - or should have known - about the whole hub housing vs. bearings so why would they have said I needed my bearings repacked when that wasn't possible? Unless the second place was lying? Or possibly the first place was just adding something to the maintenance list and lying to me about needing the bearings repacked in the first place??

Anyone have any info on this particular subject, or know anything about the 2002 Explorer and the wheel set up in this regard? Your input would be greatly appreciated.
 



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Well, that's what is bad about auto repair - you get all types of answers from different shops. The bearings however can not be repacked:

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That is a hub/sealed unit for the Explorers front end. They are indeed expensive. The front rotors are not held on by a spindle nut - so they couldn't of loosend it or anything to make a sale. But the rotors may have a little movement due to the pads being somewhat warn. It's hard to say what you need without seeing it and testing it...but just jack up the wheel and hold the tire and 12 and 6 oclock and pry on it up and down. If you feel a good amount of play - they may have been right. If there is just a slight bit - then you should be ok. Hope that helps

-Drew
 






There's a maintenance schedule that comes with the owner's manual. I can't find where it says at what mileage the power steering fluid needs to be flushed. Since I'm over 55 year old and never in my life heard of flushing a power steering system as part of scheduled maintenance, can someone enlighten me?
 






I have used a small pump to remove the PS fluid and add new. Dont remember seeing it on required maint. list
 






There is no easy way to tell if your hubs are bad or not. Just wiggling the tire will not tell you that your hubs are bad. It will tell you if your ball joints are bad, but not the hub assembly. This is something that can be done by yourself, and there is even a thread here on how to do it. It should only take you an hour for the first side and about 20 minutes for the second side. Replace them yourself. The last time I replaced one of mine it was only about 175 dollars per unit.
How is the camber on your truck? do the tires look like they are pointing in at the top?
 






Philip,
Please don't Hijack the thread. If you have a problem, post your own thread. We will be more than happy to help you.
Thanks
Ray Lobato
 






Thanks very much to those of you that responded to my inquiry, your comments were very helpful.

Drew, the play on the wheel is slight, there's not much at all so I should be fine for a while, which will give me the chance to budget for these parts and purchase them as I'm able to before things get too bad. This also let me know that the second mechanic wasn't trying to rip me off and the first one didn't have a clue, which is also a big help.

Ray, I'd love to do this myself, even though I'm female I don't have a problem getting my hands dirty and I love learning about new things like this (I hate being dependent on others without having a clue as to what's going on); however my time is limited and so is my tool collection. Maybe I can get my son to help me though, when the mechanic showed me what it would take to replace these it looked simple enough and with the info here on the forum, I just may be able to tackle it okay. As I mentioned above, the camber is fine, the wheels are fine, the tire tread is fine, the ride is fine. I think the only reason this was brought up is because the first mechanic was looking for regular maintenance stuff and saw the front wheels had a little play in them during his inspection and suggested that the wheel bearings be repacked as a precautionary measure, which is how this all came up.

Thanks again everyone, your assistance is greatly appreciated!!
 






Iggyboo,
If your camber is fine and you don't hear any grinding noise, you are probably ok.
If and or when you feel the need to change them, just give us a holler and we will help you out. We can tell you exactly what tools you will need and what parts also need to be replace while you doing this.
 






Apologies

Philip said:
Philip,
Please don't Hijack the thread. If you have a problem, post your own thread. We will be more than happy to help you.
Thanks
Ray Lobato

Ray,
I didn't mean to upset the program. This is my first time on the forum. Please tell me how I start a new thread and I will.

Thanks,
Phil
 






i have a 2002 with 94k and the REAR bearing hubs went BAD both of them the rear tires where wobbeling and making all sorts of noises brought it to ford and paid 1200.00 OUCH to have them replaced , the where also nice to reglue the emergency brake pads on the shoes for me cuz he said they where BIG bucks as well.......
 






Philip said:
Ray,
I didn't mean to upset the program. This is my first time on the forum. Please tell me how I start a new thread and I will.

Thanks,
Phil

Philip, I sent you a PM explaining how to create a new thread. If you have any other questions, just give me a holler and I will be more than happy to help you out.
 






I beleive I need to replace my wheel bearing in my front drivers side. I get a horrible vibration that goes away if I turn my wheel to the left, but otherwise it is always there. I tried to get the wheels balanced to no avail.

What tools do I need to do this? Is there a write up on it somewhere on this forum? Link?

Thanks in advance!
 






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