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"Texans take high road a tad too high" -- Denver Post, 8-3-2000

Please note that I wasn't siding on either issue there, just explaining that when the news says something is so, people believe that something is so :).
 



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Darwin Awards

A friend of mine just sent me this and I thought you might want to read it:

08-AUG-00 -- What Goes Up...

If you've ever spent any time in Colorado, you know the air
is thinner in the Rocky Mountains at 12,500 feet above sea
level. The change in altitude can put such a strain on a
body that the state of Colorado attracts Olympic trainers
and athletes from all over the world.

However, the altitude does affect different people in different
ways. In this case, the reduced levels of oxygen caused two
visitors from Texas to completely lose their common sense.

While driving about an hour north of Durango on Highway 550, two
brothers in two separate vehicles (a Dodge Ram and a Jeep Wrangler)
decided they wanted to do a little off-road four-wheeling. On the
outskirts of Silverton (a town tucked inside a valley, nestled on
all sides by the Rocky Mountains), the two decided to take a little
detour down the mountainside. (NOTE: Even the most rugged all-terrain
vehicles can't compensate for a lack of common sense.) It was the
beginning of an ordeal that would last for six days.

Oblivious to natural dangers presented by high cliffs and vast
remoteness, the two happily trekked down the mountainside further
and further. When they finally decided it was time to head back up
the mountainside, they discovered the angle was so steep that their
vehicles didn't have enough power to motor them back up (er...so
much for those car commercials).

So, instead of going back UP, the two decided they'd just keep
driving DOWN. Their plan was working out great until they became
trapped on a remote and unstable shelf above an 800-foot slope in
the middle of the Rockies. It took a Hummer five hours to push and
nudge each vehicle back up the mountainside where the brothers were
later ticketed by a representative from the Bureau of Land Management
for "harming the fragile alpine tundra environment, which a sign
nearby says can take 100 years to heal when damaged."

--DailyDarwin.com Staff
 






Well, I really wasn't going to say anything about this topic, but I'm going to anyway.
Yes I know they made a very bad judgement, and yes they "harmed the fragil alpine tundra", but is that "fragile tundra" more important than those three people? Come on guys. You've never F@#ked up in your life time?
This whole thing is a bunch of BS and the press is doing nothing but pouring gas on the fire.
What should have happened was give them a ticket, get their damn trucks off there and send them on their way. The mistake that they made hardly qualifies them for the Darwin Awards. Now it would have if they were from that part of the territory, and actually knew better, but they weren't. They didn't do it on purpose. Everybody that sat there and ridiculed them and didn't help them, is in my book in no positon to condem anyone. Where I come from you help others out. For those who said you deserve what you get. Would it have made everything ok had these three people died? No animal or piece of land is worth the price of a human life unless you are defending it against an enemy, and they were not the enemy, contrary to what the tree huggers think. I'm sure that Bill didn't think he was in danger when he went up that side of Potato salid hill and rolled his Ranger. Hell I looked at the place where he rolled it and didn't think it was a bad spot. I don't think any of us thought it was bad. Are we candidates for the Darwin awards because we didn't think it was that dangerous. I don't think so.
As for the Colorado 4wheeling Asso. They should have helped.
Good or bad publicity be damned! You are talking about people here. That's more important. They are not showing me much if they are afraid to help fellow 4wheelers in trouble. Like it or not, they are fellow 4wheelers.
We need to all hang together or we will all surely hang.
 






Ray,
I knew that you and I sometimes have a similar outlook, but I didn't think we were twins. See my posts one page back dated 8/7 1:57 & 5:47 on this subject.
 






Damn Peter (My brother)
I guess we do think alike. Honest I didn't see your post. That Darwin award thing just didn't set well with me and I just had to say something about it. I guess we're alot more like minded than I thought we were. ;)
 






Well, not to play devils advocate or anything. But Ray, the Colorado 4wheelers Assoc and other 4wd clubs around the state did the right thing to stay out of the whole mess. First of all, these guys messed up BIG time. Second, if you have ever been in the area, it's like looking up at a wall thousands of feet tall! - Much much much steeper than the Mt. Antero (last year's Colo Colors run). And finally, if any CO 4wd club came to the rescue, they would have played right into the hands of the media and opponants to recreational land use. It would make an even stronger case against recreational land use with 4wd clubs on site. Were talking about vehicles here NOT people. The people are out of harms way.

There is no excuse for lack of common sense. These guys just don't have it! Sorry Ray, but sometimes people think they are invincible - and they end up being proved wrong. In other words, these fellows got themselves into this mess, and there was no one stupid enough to risk their own lives or vehicles to get them out - not even the BLM or any 4wd assoc.
 






Ray, as my previous posts show, I fully agree with you. But by the time the @#it hit the fan and it became public, no lifes were in danger. They had already walked out.
Just a minor point that doesn't really change anything.
 






Hey Brett, fellow Littleton resident, will you be able to make the Colors Run? Also, I'm curious, is your Sport modified or stock?

BTW, I agree with you on this issue. In fact, coincidence rears it's head again, you made nearly identical points as Matt and I. I can just picture the Colorado environmentalists foaming at the mouth to use this one against us...rest assured, we haven't heard the last of this incident...

I think Robert Frost saw this all coming:
"Two roads diverged..., and I-
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."

Has it ever... ;)

[Edited by mmpc on 08-11-2000 at 08:01 AM]
 






Chris, Brett,
That's what makes this country so wonderful. We can have different views on things and that's alright. :) I have been that way many times. My Dad's from Colorado and I used to backpack up that way alot. Probably before you were born though. ;)



[Edited by Ray Lobato on 08-11-2000 at 08:07 PM]
 






Ray - great point. LIke someone already mentioned what makes this site great is that we disagree but we're not calling names and yelling and stuff. I think that's cool. By the way, send me an e-mail at mattadams@pcisys.com, I tried finding your e-mail address but couldn't find it, I got some questions to ask you.
 






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