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clarkkent

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im not talking about money rich guys!! sorry.. but ii'm talking about air-fuel ratio rich.. i got my mounty v8 smog tested today and they say'd my car was running too rich? can anybody tell me whats this from?
 



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most likely is a fouled up sensor....
run codes on it.....
 






Or maybe the testing center is really close to your house and the truck wasn't warmed up yet?
 






hmm... i kno my car was warmed up already cause i took my car straight to the smog shop rite after work.. maybe it is a sensor? hmm.. i'll have to see, i'm getting it diagnos'd today at 1pm.. sO i'll see... but thanks for the heads up.
 






true about the not warmed up thing.... how much driving was involved between point a and the shop?
 






Clark... there can be many reasons why an engine is running rich. As most of today's engines are computer controlled, and meter fuel based on data they receive from sensors (MAF - measuring air inflow; TPS - measuring throttle position; O2S - measuring residual oxygen for fine tuning the mixture once the car goes into "closed loop" operation (eg once the entire system is warmed up and the computer starts controlling fuel feed rate based on actual data instead of pre set parameters), and a high candidate; CPS - crankshaft position sensor, and there are others. When they diagnose the car, check the functionality of your 02 sensors. They can actually watch the output voltage vary on them in an OBDII tester. It should (on the pre-cat sensor(s) fluctuate between 100 and 900 millivolts, crossing over the .445 V trigger point frequently. As for a warm engine, that always help emissions checks, but as for the O2S's, I 'm positive the 2000 model year used heated sensors, which helps them become operational sooner and to remain operational even whlie your engine is idling (they need 650F plus to be operational). While there are non sensor things that neeed to be considered, the usual course is to check air filter, and then sensors. From there the list expands to other non-computer controlled items. Good luck.
 






well i brang it back to the smog place so that they could diagnos it and my mounty there.. when i came back they told me i had passed now.. i dunno it was weird.. i think smog places are scams.. i think they wanted me to pay the 70 bucks instead of letting me pay the 40 buck passing fee.. i think they changed their minds about letting me fail because this time i brang my girlfriend to help me pick up my car.. hmm.. i think its a conspiracy!!!
 






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