Westin Bull Bar INSTALLED

[ImprtKllrZ28]

 

[macknos94]

that looks sick you think about putting a hood scoop on it at all

 

[MillerTimeX17]

looks good! matches the grille perfectly!

 

[jrzytrac]

Love it! Hey, does the skid plate come off or is it on there permanently?

 

[ImprtKllrZ28]

Hey thanks
The skid plate looks like it can come off.

 

[CALDWELL]

get some nice HID fogs for the bar would look kick ass !!!!

 

[junkYARDbuilt]

That truck looks good! The push bar really pulls together the front end with the chrome grilles

 

[Sams01XplrSprt]

looks awesome

 

[jasongt06]

looks pretty mean.

 

[ImprtKllrZ28]

i have some kc SlimLites i might put them on

 

[SubLo]

that looks sick you think about putting a hood scoop on it at all

Ummm.... to each his own buy why on Earth would you want a non-functional hood scoop? Curious...

 

[jasonthebombero]

I agree it looks good! Did you have to trim the front air dam any?

 

[ImprtKllrZ28]

i didnt trim the air dam...but i am going to the fit is a little tight

 

[RaiderKC]

looks good man

 

[macknos94]

Ummm.... to each his own buy why on Earth would you want a non-functional hood scoop? Curious...

who says its wouldn't be functional? and actually in that case why would anyone put a scoop on there vehicle unless they have a top mount intercooler? my buddies cuda was on the dyno and factory it had a functional ram air but it restricted the intake flow which caused a lose in hp. the old believe was a hood scoop would i'mprove performance do to better air flow then it was looked at again and completely flopped. you lose hp if you use your scoop as an intake. think about it head rises and your hood is above the engine so it heats up pretty dam fast. this would cause the intake heat to be much higher.

the only use for a functional scoop on a N/A vehicle is looks, heat reduction, fix clearance issues or if you just want to make your engine a hell of alot dirtier. so in the end you can make it functional but it is pointless so for looks why not. hell 99 percent of cars from the factory these days that have scoops aren't functional

 

[SubLo]

who says its wouldn't be functional?

Because it wouldn't be functional on an X. That's just ricetastic/crapstastic IMO along the lines of "Explorer" chrome cladding, curb feelers, 6 inch fart cans and blue neon undercar lighting.

and actually in that case why would anyone put a scoop on there vehicle unless they have a top mount intercooler?

Good point. That's what I'm trying to say. They would. My Legacy has it as OEM equipment because of yes, a TMIC. Retrofitment/aftermarket for a TMIC or RAM air on a highly modified car is another issue.

my buddies cuda was on the dyno and factory it had a functional ram air but it restricted the intake flow which caused a lose in hp. the old believe was a hood scoop would i'mprove performance do to better air flow then it was looked at again and completely flopped.

Maybe so in the Cuda. Not necessarily true of others from the muscle car era or well engineered solutions (e.g., T/A RA, GN headlight RA, etc.). Don't no for sure. Could be bad OEM design, highly modified engine in your buddy's case requiring substantial additional airflow - don't have enough information.

you lose hp if you use your scoop as an intake. think about it head rises and your hood is above the engine so it heats up pretty dam fast. this would cause the intake heat to be much higher.

Your argument there doesn't hold much water. Making a blanket statement like that doesn't fly in every properly engineered situation. At speed, the benefits (read compression) of air will more than make up for any slight, actually negligible, increase air temp from a scoop in most cases.

the only use for a functional scoop on a N/A vehicle is looks

Well, that's my point - ricestastic. That does not equal function. It equals aesthetics (or lack thereof). But who am I to judge? Just my opinion, nothing more.

, heat reduction, fix clearance issues or if you just want to make your engine a hell of alot dirtier. so in the end you can make it functional but it is pointless so for looks why not. hell 99 percent of cars from the factory these days that have scoops aren't functional

Heat reduction for an air scoop? Not really. Negligible. Clearance issues back in the blower days or custom CAI? Yes.

If I've offended anyone, I apologize in advance. Again, this is just one man's opinion

 

[macknos94]

i understand were you are coming from but just as with the new evos that have a hood/vent slash scoop system to push air out the hood. if they didn't do this then it would actually cause issues with the engine overheating. it is the same with most high performance cars. my M3 had the same vent and when i went to have it smoothed out they told me it was functional to release the caged up hot air. but then you look at the last pontiac g8 with the v8 400hp and they refuse to make the hood functional due to lower hp numbers

i'm just saying for me only being in my 20s i have had more sub 10 second and lower cars then most will in a life time. also countless hours of dyno time playing with different setups. you would be amazed how much thought is put into vehicles. a simple hole in the hood could cause issues if you live in a cold weather area.
we actually read about the write up on muscle car hood scoops. they went through and say go and no-go for a whole load of cars. there were only 3, if my memory serves me right, that actually had scoops or a ram air hood that improved hp/tq numbers. the rest actually lost hp from the hood mounted ram air intake system.

 

[shadowless127]

the only hood "scoop" that makes sense on modern muscle cars is the shaker system on the 03-04 mach 1, but only because it's directly bolted onto the upper intake.

 

[macknos94]

they also ran a few modern hoods like that and it showed that a ram air with a containment box made more hp. they also had digital temp readings for each intake they ran. in there conclussion section they said when it comes down to a hood mount intake system then you are better off passing right by it and moving to a cold air or ram air setup. intake temps are lower, hp was higher and price is lower.

 

[lynchy wa]

it'd be interesting to see how the bar would cope in a collision with a bull