Who has the loudest system in their explorer?

[Yng_pnk]

I have everything listed in my auto signature. I vote for BMXBOY though

 

[Explorer4u2c]

I'm pretty sure that I have bmxboy beat. Nothing against him or anything, cause those woofers are sweeet. But although he has a little more excursion than I, I have more cone area (20 to 48) movement. And my woofers dont need as much power to perform to their maximum level. But those are sweet wooferes. I want to do 2 13w7's off JL 1000.1's when the amp are finally out. We just put 4 JL 13w7's in a suburban and each woofer had a JL 500.1, my god was it loud....

 

[id92]

here's mine..had it for over a year and too immune to it...i'm ready for a pair of w7's...
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[Mainfraim]

pic no work

 

[exploderdriva]

Originally posted by Explorer4u2c
I haven't tested it out yet with the meter... But mine will give you a pretty nice backrub... lol...

http://www.sounddomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=200810&page=2

I dont know how to put a pic on here, if someone could explain, i'll try to do just the pics.

thats an awsome install. you should give those subs some more power

 

[exploderdriva]

Originally posted by flyguy
Hehe... so... I see some of you guys here have rockford subs. What do you think? Should I trade my MTX's for Rockford?

nick

it depends on what kind of mtx's you have and what rf's you would be buying. how much is dirt cheap? i thought best buy only gives 10% off.

 

[jordan23]

GET SOME DD's!!!!!




Peace,

Jordan23

 

[leenjen]

Originally posted by Explorer4u2c
I'm pretty sure that I have bmxboy beat. Nothing against him or anything, cause those woofers are sweeet. But although he has a little more excursion than I, I have more cone area (20 to 48) movement. And my woofers dont need as much power to perform to their maximum level. But those are sweet wooferes. I want to do 2 13w7's off JL 1000.1's when the amp are finally out. We just put 4 JL 13w7's in a suburban and each woofer had a JL 500.1, my god was it loud....

yeah according to JL audio, two 12W3s will be quite a bit louder then a 13W7. so if you have four 12W3s, that should be about as loud as three 13W7's.

 

[Bmxboy]

Originally posted by Yng_pnk
I have everything listed in my auto signature. I vote for BMXBOY though

Thank ye...

Originally posted by Explorer4u2c
I'm pretty sure that I have bmxboy beat. Nothing against him or anything, cause those woofers are sweeet.

Originally posted by leenjen
yeah according to JL audio, two 12W3s will be quite a bit louder then a 13W7. so if you have four 12W3s, that should be about as loud as three 13W7's.

While the 4 JL Audio 12" W3's may be louder...i will have to disagree with ya Leenjen...i am about 99% sure that it was the oposite way...that it was like a 10" JL Audio W7 equaled i think 2 10" W3's and the 12" was like 2 or 3 12" W3's.... I know for a fact that 4 Jl Audio 12" W3's would NOT beat 3 13" JL Audio W7's...i mean...in comparison why would anyone spend 3000 dollars for 3 subs, when they could get (at about 200 bucks a pop) 15 JL Audio W3's and beat the **** out of eveyone at competitions.....

I will say this...the 12" W3's were indeed louder , however the 10" W7's you can FEEL them alot more. I mean...goodness, they hit 10hz! Its so fun playing the bass test CD and watchin it go from 10hz up...and seeing various things shake in my truck. At 10hz my front seats start shakin...around 16 hz (the sweet spot) my entire roof flexes about 2-3 inches....the moon roof cover starts vibrating up and down, etc. its crazy....at about 24 hz my visors start goin crazy, and at about 30hz i think, my front windows start to flex a little...

Carl

 

[Bmxboy]

Off of JL's Site -

5) How do they compare to the W3's and W6's in terms of output?
10W7 has 90% more displacement potential than a 10W3 (5.6 dB)
10W7 has 114% more displacement potential than a 10W6 (6.6 dB)
12W7 has 158% more displacement potential than a 12W3 (8.2 dB)
12W7 has 166% more displacement potential than a 12W6 (8.5 dB)
13W7 has 55% more displacement potential than a 15W3 (3.8 dB)
13W7 has 144% more displacement potential than a 15W6 (7.7 dB)


More info at www.jlaudio.com or here - Dead Link Removed

Carl

 

[Explorer4u2c]

First of all...why would you want a 10 inch woofer to play 10hz ? That's more the domain of a 15 or better yet an 18, since the lower the frequency reproduction the bigger the driver. Not only is 10 hz not audible to human ears ( since the range for human hearing is 20-20k) but what vehicle that you ride in daily has a resonant frequency of 10 hz anyways? Any db guru should know that , right? Now , comparing SAME vehicle specs with different systems and their efficiency is the real scenario here...since we're talking about a choice between systems and not vehicles . With that in mind, not only will the w3 set up be louder in said vehicle, but you'll need less power to get MORE output with the more efficient woofer...thus costing the customer LESS MONEY! Now, which one would you choose? Any questions?

 

[exploderdriva]

Originally posted by jordan23
GET SOME DD's!!!!!




Peace,

Jordan23

I did. that is my old system i had in my acura. i bought the explorer to put the spl system in. check my page and you can see 1 of my 9515's

 

[Explorer94GV]

i thought i would chime in since you guys are getting technical. what do you think a 18" Cerwin Vega Stroker would hit in my Explorer. I'll be running it off a rockford fosgate 1500.1bd. Hopefully I will have this in like a month (damn engine took all my money ) Anyone who has used dynamat does it really give you 3db gains? Just curious if you guys have done this to your systems yet? I know many key factors come in to a Woofer hitting certain spl levels so hopefully what i have done will put me in at least the 145-150. We just had a soundoff here and the winner hit only a 140.7 with 4 15 rockford fosgates with no dynamat, stock altenator, stock battery, and only 2 caps. his amp was 1 fosgate 800.4 he had this in a little nissan altima. you could just here that trunk rattle like a **** even when it was open. God i wish i had that Stroker for that soundoff event!

 

[leenjen]

Originally posted by Explorer94GV
I know many key factors come in to a Woofer hitting certain spl levels so hopefully what i have done will put me in at least the 145-150.

exactly. there are a lot of things that affect the performance of the subwoofer (and the output). but in a large vented/ported enclosure, you should have no problem hitting those numbers. 2 years ago my friend had an 18" stroker in his celica. i think his highest was 152.2. if he had more room (like an explorer), he could've done better. but it still was loud as hell.

 

[Explorer4u2c]

to answer your qusetion about the dynamat...no. To gain 3db on an spl mic you need to do many things. The single most important ( abiding by the laws of physics) would be to double your cone surface area and your power. For example: two 12" with 500 watts. Keeping in mind that there are several contributing factors in the outcome of an spl measurement, in order to go up 3 db you would need to go to 4 12" with 1000 watts, then 3 more db would require 8 12" and 2000 watts, 16 12" and 4000 watts, and so on. That is why bigger numbers are so hard to achieve, eventually you run out of room ( or money). So even though dynamat applied properly will deaden the vehicle's interior and increase the sound quality of your system, it will not make your stereo 3db louder.

 

[flyguy]

Originally posted by exploderdriva


it depends on what kind of mtx's you have and what rf's you would be buying. how much is dirt cheap? i thought best buy only gives 10% off.

Best Buy gives near cost. So on car Audio, thats roughly 40-60%. Then I get parts and labor at 50%. I currently have a pair of MTX 6000's 10". And am looking at a pair of Rockford 12" (I dont know the model). But it looks like Ebay has some good prices on MTX 8000 12" subs too. So... hmm....

nick

 

[Bmxboy]

Originally posted by Explorer4u2c
First of all...why would you want a 10 inch woofer to play 10hz ? That's more the domain of a 15 or better yet an 18, since the lower the frequency reproduction the bigger the driver. Not only is 10 hz not audible to human ears ( since the range for human hearing is 20-20k) but what vehicle that you ride in daily has a resonant frequency of 10 hz anyways? Any db guru should know that , right? Now , comparing SAME vehicle specs with different systems and their efficiency is the real scenario here...since we're talking about a choice between systems and not vehicles . With that in mind, not only will the w3 set up be louder in said vehicle, but you'll need less power to get MORE output with the more efficient woofer...thus costing the customer LESS MONEY! Now, which one would you choose? Any questions?

Im not saying that i "heard" the subs playing at 10hz; hence forth me mentinoing part of my car vibrating! Anyway, i wasen't saying that i play 10hz songs all the day long, but i popped in the test CD, and it played it...im not sure if the 12" W3's can, buy im pretty sure my old ones (can't remember), if they did, played it like alot less powerfully. The main thing i notice, like i said, with these subs, is the power...not so much the loudness. I realize that the W3 set up is nice....i had them, and loved them, and still own them (didn't want to sell them ) originally, i wanted to get 8 JL Audio W3's for my truck, but funds ran out, and i just decided to go with the 10" W7's (funds ran out for that...i wanted (2) 12" W7's with a bd1500 to each......)

Hows this: I admit i spent alot of money on my subs, but i had been waiting for these for quite some time and am actually selling my X at the end of summer. Therefore i wanted to get everything in tip top condition for competitions this summer...not wait, save up all my money and put it into my X with like a month left.

Ya'll are probably saying its a waste of money, but im not gettin another car for a year, and im pretty sure it may be another X

Carl

 

[exploderdriva]

Originally posted by Explorer4u2c
to answer your qusetion about the dynamat...no. To gain 3db on an spl mic you need to do many things. The single most important ( abiding by the laws of physics) would be to double your cone surface area and your power. For example: two 12" with 500 watts. Keeping in mind that there are several contributing factors in the outcome of an spl measurement, in order to go up 3 db you would need to go to 4 12" with 1000 watts, then 3 more db would require 8 12" and 2000 watts, 16 12" and 4000 watts, and so on. That is why bigger numbers are so hard to achieve, eventually you run out of room ( or money). So even though dynamat applied properly will deaden the vehicle's interior and increase the sound quality of your system, it will not make your stereo 3db louder.

actually doubling cone area will add 3 db and doubling the power also adds 3 db so if you do both theoritically you can gain 6 dB.
dynamat doesn't give you 3 dB. maybe .3 dB. it is easier to gain dB's when they are low. like going from 120 to 130 is easy and going from 150 to 160 is harder. if you look at the box it said it gains 3 dB at like 117dB and it depends on the car. just read the fine print.

 

[88vert]

I have two w3's with an orion extreme 800 in a sealed enclosure with a poweramper power cap and they hit pretty nice

 

[flyguy]

Woo hoo! I just got my X back from Best Buy. I had my speakers rewired, and my new amp put in. Also, I had 2x 1 farad caps installed. I got one of those Monster Digital caps too. Whee! So here is my setup right now.

Panasonic 800 Reciever
2x MTX 6000 10" Subs Sealed
2x 1 Farad Caps
RF 400.4 amp
RF 700S amp
4x Polk Dx7 5x7"

It sounds pretty nice. I think it needs a little tuning though. I also had them hook up a Monster Cable MP3 kit... which is just a RCA to 3.5mm jack cable, to my aux port on my deck. Which I am hooking up to my HP Jornada 568. Now I can play Mp3's and have my GPS hooked up to my stereo. Nice.

nick