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03 Explorer 4wd 5r55w going into neutral while in drive or reverse

Discussion in 'Stock 2002 - 2005 Explorers' started by Wakeboardrb, January 13, 2018.

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      well that stinks. Oh well. Cost me hundreds less than if I wouldve taken it to a shop, so I'll take the 8.50 loss.
       
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      @Wakeboardrb
      They are only ribbing you! Look at it my way: you got the job done for a few bucks more than cheapest price. So what? imp
       
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      Meh, not when it would cost me $10 in gas to drive to a NAPA...LOL
       
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      You may have already checked this, but...
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      If it is an automatic transmission (I have a 5 Speed automatic w/4.0L in my 3rd generation '02) ...I would suggest checking the transmission fluid level first ~ before checking more expensive repairs.
      I wish I could tell you that mine came with a convenient dip-stick, but that is certainly not the case.
      Good luck!
       
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      Never saw an '02 with 6-speed.......
       
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      Five speed automatic.
       
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      What makes you say so? What is the transmission model?
       
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      Good edit! Watch your tachometer as you accelerate easily up to about 55 and you will count 5 drops in engine speed, the 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 4-5, and then another apparent "shift". That last one is the Torque Converter Clutch engaging. Won't happen until the trans. is hot. It was misleading as hell to me, until I figured it out. Tach can be a real good diagnostic tool, told me no TCC was happening without pulling codes.
       
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      TCC will engage after 4th if O/D is turned off.
       
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      Imp, with as much nerve damage as I have... you're lucky you didn't see 556 speed transmission :p
      Either way, if it IS any AUTOMATIC start with the cheap $**** first: trans fluid level. :)
       
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      @TechGuru
      Good point. Rarely turn my OD off except to "gear down" long hills. And when that is done, the TCC disengages with closed throttle, as it always does.
       
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      Serious? I didn't intend to damage any nerves. My own are shot, too!

      At that, fluid level check is easy on my '04 5R55S, as it has a DIPSTICK!
       
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      EMG testing and IMG testing showed 92% nerve damage to my right side, and 72% on my left...85% disability when combined with fibromyalgia, Asperger's, Spinal Degenerative Disease, and titanium medical implants...but I still 4WD & ride Super Bikes ~ this Ol' Rooster ain't goin' down without a spur / LOL.
       
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      What is the difference between the 5R55 Transmissions? I have seen the S and W. Mine has the W. Is it the AWD vs 4WD or does it have something to do with Gear Ratios or tire size? My 02 has the 245 tire size and is 4wd and has the W. Also can you go from the smaller 235 size tire to the 245 without any issues? I also believe I have the 3:73 gearing and other trucks have a different gearing. Any information on this?
       
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      Quoted word for word from WoodrowUSMC:
      This is directly from the ATSG Manual.

      The Ford 5R55S and 5R55W transmissions are both very similiar in design to the Ford 5R55N transmission and use electronic shift controls. The 5R55s/5R55w are both "Syncrounous" units, as they do not use the intermediate clutch and intermediate sprag that the 5R55N incorporates. The Ford 5R55S and 5R55W transmissions were introduced in 2002, found in the Ford Explorer and Mercury Mountaineer vehicles, and are available in both 2WD and 4WD configurations. For model year2003 they are also in the LincolnLS, Lincoln Aviator and Ford Thunderbird. They are designed for operation in longitudinal powertrains for rear wheel drive vehicles.

      5R55S Gear Ratios 5R55W GearRatios
      1st Gear 3.22 3.22
      2nd Gear 2.29 2.41
      3rd Gear 1.54 1.54
      4th Gear 1.00 1.00
      5th Gear 0.71 0.75
      Reverse 3.07 3.07

      I don't have any information on 5R55E transmission.
      Hope this answers your question
       
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      I'm currently having to drive with the O/D off because my O/D band is slipping, I don't think it's the band itself because sometimes it actually works. Also this means 2nd gear does not work because it uses the O/D band. So I'm driving in "3" to start in 3rd gear (feels like a CVT or go-kart) then shift to D for 4th once I reach 40mph. If I use D I have to totally let off the gas for it to jump from 1st to 3rd.

      I ordered the fill adapter to try adding transmission fluid first before anything else.
       
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      Thanks for sharing. Only poisitive thing I can add, is Ilike your location.
       
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      Have you tried backing off the adjustment, tightened back to spec, then back off 1-1/2 turns instead of 2? I did that, and the shuddering on 5th. went away. Why risk this? Ford Shop Manual states 1-1/2 cars, 2 for trucks. Car or truck? Moot point. Driven it several months now with OD OK.
       
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