Wish I could give myself a raise like them!

[jared ajlouny]

keep in mind, im sure these people make some money on the side doing "favors" for some large compaines

 

[Stephen]

Of course but that should have no bearing on what they are paid to do this particular job.

 

[jared ajlouny]

im just saying,t hey get a hell of allot more money/benifits than we will ever know

 

[Stephen]

But so do many other people in business all over the country. That can't be taken into account when deciding what they should be paid for this particular job.

Think about it this way, lets say you're independently wealthy and don't have to work. BUT you do work, you go and become a police officer or something. Is the simple reason that you have plenty of money on your own enough for them to not pay you or pay you very little for your police work because you know, the police department needs the money? No, that would be completely unfair. You are being paid to do a job, and it doesn't matter what the other circumstances in your life are.

 

[Positive Vibes]

But Stephen if the police department was in debt and the economy wasn't very strong would you still justify getting a raise. I guess what I don't agree with is the economy is sucking the hind tit. Most companies are still cutting back due to the unpredictable economy but the goverment which has the biggest debt ever figures they deserve a raise when most Americans aren't getting a raise and are just lucky to have a job?????

 

[Nick26]

But Stephen if the police department was in debt and the economy wasn't very strong would you still justify getting a raise. I guess what I don't agree with is the economy is sucking the hind tit. Most companies are still cutting back due to the unpredictable economy but the goverment which has the biggest debt ever figures they deserve a raise when most Americans aren't getting a raise and are just lucky to have a job?????

i second that... its part of working for an organization, If a company that sells gizmos isn't selling so many anymore but their tech support guys are doing great then that doesn't mean the tech support guys should get a raise get, the company is suffering and therefore everyone in the company suffers...

But so do many other people in business all over the country. That can't be taken into account when deciding what they should be paid for this particular job.

Think about it this way, lets say you're independently wealthy and don't have to work. BUT you do work, you go and become a police officer or something. Is the simple reason that you have plenty of money on your own enough for them to not pay you or pay you very little for your police work because you know, the police department needs the money? No, that would be completely unfair. You are being paid to do a job, and it doesn't matter what the other circumstances in your life are.

typical executive thinking

 

[Positive Vibes]

This was an email I got today. Not sure if its true or not, but I figured I'd post it. It may need its own thread???

> IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT!
>
> KEEP IT GOING!!!!
>

> 2004 Election Issue!!
>
> GET A BILL STARTED TO PLACE ALL POLITICIANS ON SOC. SEC.
>
> This must be an issue in "2004". Please! Keep it going.
>
> ----------------------------------
>
> SOCIAL SECURITY:
>
> (This is worth reading. It is short and to the point.)
>
> Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. !
>
> Our Senators and Congresswomen do not pay into Social Security and, of
> course, they do not collect from it.
>
> You see, Social Security benefits were not suitable forpersons of
> their
> rare elevation in society.They felt they should have a special plan
for
> themselves. So, many years ago they voted in their own
> benefit plan.
>
> In more recent years, no congressperson has felt the need to change
> it.
> After all, it is a great plan.
>
> For all practical purposes their plan works like this:
>
> When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die.
>
> Except it may increase from time to time for cost of living
> adjustments..
>
> For example, former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives

> may
> expect to draw $7,800,000.00 (that's Seven Million, Eight-Hundred
Thousand
> Dollars), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years
of
> their lives.
>
> This is calculated! on an average life span for each of those two
> Dignitaries.
>
> Younger Dignitaries who retire at an early age, will receive much more
> during the rest of their lives.
>
> Their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. NADA....ZILCH....
>
> This little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. You and I
> pick
> up the tab for this plan. The funds for this fine retirement plan come

> directly from the General Funds;
>
> "OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK"!
>
> From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid)
> into,-every payday until we retire (which amount is matched by our
> employer)-we can expect to get an average of $1,000 per month after
> retirement.
>
> Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of $1,000
> monthly
> benefits for 68 years and one (1) month to equal Senator! Bill
Bradley's
> benefits!
>
>
>
> Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made.
>
> That change would be to:
>
> Jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the Senators and
> Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of
us
> ......
>
> then sit back.....
>
> and watch how fast they would fix it.
>
> If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be
> planted
> and maybe good changes will evolve.
>
>
> How many people can YOU send this to?
>
> Better yet.....
>
> How many people WILL you send this to??

 

[Iowa Hick]

My big gripe isn't that they shouldn't be paid so much because they are rich anyway, my problem is that I don't believe that a public servant whose paycheck comes out of mine should be making $150k plus the extreme amount of benefits they get. I also think that we pay the President too much. We should never have a situation where people are going into politics for the money, and I think that that is what we have created.