Mass Air Flow housings

[Jakee]

First post here so please be gentle. And I searched for this topic many times...

I have a 2001 Ford Explorer Sport.
4.0 SOHC Totally stock except spark plug wires so far. (JBA)

I'm wondering about the spectre mass air flow sensor housing. The housing is supposed to be used with your stock MAF sensor. I'm not exactly sure the ID of it but I know the OD is 4". The biggest MAF housing I've seen on this website was 70MM (2.755") I'm wondering if anyone has used the housing with there stock sensor? I wondering how this affected performance? I'm concered about using this because I'm affraid that it might be too much airflow resulting in the Stock sensor giving false readings. Also, the price is so low. Is this a case where you get what you pay for and get less performance than if you would just use the stock sensor housing?

The price for this housing is low as well as the tubing to make your own custom Intake setup. I was thinking about using the tubing and MAS housing as well as the connections to get air into the engine compartment where the filer is. Then upgrade the Filter to a K&N. (Something that's been proven with real tests.) This would be cheaper but I don't want something that breaks, doesn't work properly, or looks like crap. I'm going for performanc as well as looks.

Why not use a K&N intake?
The price for one. The looks don't satisfy me very well. (Black Plastic) I do like the plastic cuss it makes sence to me that it takes care of the heat a little bit better than a metal tube.

MAC - I like this Intake and I like the looks. I don't like the metal. I'm thinking it might hold heat. Then when the air flow thru it will heat just a little.

I don't know. I've never done any test so maybe it's not a big difference if any.

Suggestions?

 

[aldive]

I'm wondering about the spectre mass air flow sensor housing. The housing is supposed to be used with your stock MAF sensor. I'm not exactly sure the ID of it but I know the OD is 4". The biggest MAF housing I've seen on this website was 70MM (2.755") I'm wondering if anyone has used the housing with there stock sensor? I wondering how this affected performance? I'm concered about using this because I'm affraid that it might be too much airflow resulting in the Stock sensor giving false readings. Also, the price is so low. Is this a case where you get what you pay for and get less performance than if you would just use the stock sensor housing?

I know nothing about this housing; do you have a link?

I use a C&L housing and it performs well. I picked up 7.5 rwhp using this housing. Take a look at http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136883&highlight=maf

Why not use a K&N intake?
The price for one. The looks don't satisfy me very well. (Black Plastic) I do like the plastic cuss it makes sence to me that it takes care of the heat a little bit better than a metal tube.

There is nothing wrong with this intake; its an excellent one.

MAC - I like this Intake and I like the looks. I don't like the metal. I'm thinking it might hold heat. Then when the air flow thru it will heat just a little.

I use the Mac and have experienced NO heat issues with it.

 

[Jakee]

http://www.powerflowracing.com/3modular2.html

Aldive - I've seen a lot of your post, and trust me, I take what you say seriously. I've seen you prove gains with papers. I like that.

Anyways, If this spectre kit is worth anything I might try it out. Just to be different and to save money.

I was thinking the spot where my Fog Lights use to be would be a ideal place to get cold air. You'll see what I'm talking about once you take the link I sent.

Anyway, I appreciate your help and advice.

 

[Jakee]

Well, I just stumbled on a thread that said that adding a tube to the front of the vehicle for air would do nothing but suck water in when it rains. Maybe this isn't a good Idea? Any comments?

 

[AiwaExplorer]

Yes if u mount it out where u can suck air in yes, U can pick up water and Yes that is Extremely bad for your engine, However there is a fix for that problem. I know AEM makes a water bypass valve, u route it after you intake and It is "suppose to stop all water from getting to the TB that has entered the intake.....So that is another possiblity for you if you are looking at using an intake that could get wet....check AEM's website!

 

[LOWPROEXPLORER]

a couple years ago during hurricane Charlie (actually the day before it came over land) here in FL, i sucked up water with the completely stock air intake. I went through a puddle (more like a pond) that was like a foot deep (didn't know it was that deep till i went through and the engine locked up). I had like 2 inches of water on top of one of the pistons when i tore the engine apart to rebuild. I was gonna put a tube to go in front of my radiator in the grille, but I just ripped out the stock filter box and put an open filter at the end right after the MAF. I first thought it'd be too hot, but I noticed a BIG power difference, I'm guessing like at least 15-20hp, and it sounds a lot deeper and throatier, too. I didn't wanna spend all the money for a K&N, and I'm satisfied. I may go for the K&N later, but I'm happy with my $25 Autozone filter for now.

 

[Jakee]

I just found out that the Mass Airflow housing I was questioning has a 2.810 ID. That's around 71.4 MM. The housing has a straight thru design that accepts the stock sensor. When I say straight thru I mean there's nothing built in the ID to channel air in the direction of the sensor wires. I guess I'm going to try this out. I certainly hope the sensor reads okay. If not, Oh well. I would have found something not to try again a guess.

 

[au01st]

I ordered a C&L MAF from Dough at bamachips.com on Friday and it arrived today. I already have a MAF adapter from an old intake, and all I need is another rubber sleeve to connect the adapter to the MAF, and I'll be good to go. I'm looking to get dyno'd on Friday. As of my last dyno at 198.8 HP, I've added a new, larger custom bored throttle body, now the MAF, I'm doing my spark plugs and JBA cables and my ASP underdrive pulleys on Thursday, so I should be able to post some numbers this weekend. Hopin to make 210 at the wheels. Next project I'm ordering is headers and a Nitrous Express wet system, 50-75 shot.

 

[au01st]

Just put on the MAF and OMG wow! The throttle response is amazing, I used to have kind of a lag when I'd floor it, then my Sport Trac would lunge foward. Not any more, when I step on the gas my truck GOES! Even if there is 0hp gain and 0mileage gain, I'd get this just for the throttle response alone.

 

[Jakee]

I think I'm going with the C&L housing as well. Aldive had a good increase when he installed. I'm interested in the numbers from your next dyno.

I got this spectre housing but I can't bring myself to put in on my truck. It looks so cheap and well it was cheap. I think I'll use it for a pencil holder now.

I'm still dreaming and doing research. One day I'll start the mods.

You said you have a custom bored throttle body? How'd you accomplish this? What size is it bored to? I'm assuming you used another "butterfly"?

 

[Jakee]

au01st - I noticed that you got your rubber sleeve and installed the MAF in under an hour. You also updated your website with the C&L info. Your fast. Be sure to post your results fast too!

 

[BrooklynBay]

Is this MAF the same, or better than the one from Bama Chips: http://www.sctflash.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=5. They have 2 different types. Both are the same price, and cost a little more than the one from Bama.

 

['97 V8]

I take it this housing will work with the stock inlet tube? I have a cylinderical air filter and hoiusing so i wanted to be sure.

 

[BrooklynBay]

I saw that both companies sell a 2400, and 2800 model. They are a little different, but are both 90mm. Could these be used in place of a stock MAF on any other Ford with a 4.0L?

 

[Brandons]

This is what i use, i have no idea were its from or who makes it, but i found it on a shelf in my friends garage and he gave it to me. The filter end is 3 1/4" inner diameter (83mm), the exit end is 3" inner diameter (76/77mm)

 

[BrooklynBay]

I see that some are the flanged style with 4 bolts, and others are the cylinder shape that use a coupling, and a clamp on both sides. Brandon, did you see the propane system somebody was selling in the for sale section? I thought that you might find it interesting.

 

[conig]

any pics ro websites for this specter mass air flow? I can;t seem to find it only the modular intakes.

edit: found it its part number 8705 "universal" is normally not a good idea when dealing with sensors.

 

[Jakee]

Aldive had a 73MM MAF and got good results. I'm thinking if you've got anything bigger than this, or if you're planning to go to something bigger than this, you should see if someone has any results on paper. You might be getting less performance than if you were using the stock housing.

 

[conig]

ive found dyno results like aldives are not easy to find for the 5.0 he has posted alot of good data.

 

[aldive]

Aldive had a 73MM MAF and got good results. I'm thinking if you've got anything bigger than this, or if you're planning to go to something bigger than this, you should see if someone has any results on paper. You might be getting less performance than if you were using the stock housing.

Anything larger is too big.