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04-05 V6 Spectre Intake Complete Kit

Nope not with the TB mod. I think I'm done with the intake for a little while. Moving to exhaust now. I'm going to be purchasing a magnaflow muffler soon. Quick Question: Is this muffler similar to what you're running?
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I'll probably start up with the intake in december. By putting my OEM intake back on there seems to be no change in performance. Let me know how the MAF housing from spectre works, I may be going that route to get an intake.
 



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Nate, Im running Part # 12256 muffler...

the muffler that you posted has a 14'' body, compared to my muffler which has a 18'' body. 11226 will sound a little louder then what i have...


why would you put the OEM Intake back on ? the spectre set up has smoother airflow, and also eliminates the restrictive resonators
 






Nate, Im running Part # 12256 muffler...

the muffler that you posted has a 14'' body, compared to my muffler which has a 18'' body. 11226 will sound a little louder then what i have...


why would you put the OEM Intake back on ? the spectre set up has smoother airflow, and also eliminates the restrictive resonators

I sold my Spectre one. My friend paid me some money for it. I regret it now, but I will get on a new intake soon, and I will be doing this exact same thing. I'm going to see if I can buy it back... I had to do something for an intake. I need to plan this out ahead of time, buy the correct parts, instead of rushing in to it like I did last time.
 






i hope you get your old set up back, cause i think running the OEM tubing after having the spectre set up, your gonna be hating life :(

yea the " stage 2 " set up isnt the greatest, but its much better then stock :thumbsup:
 






my current set up... " stage 2 " intake...


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i hope you get your old set up back, cause i think running the OEM tubing after having the spectre set up, your gonna be hating life :(

yea the " stage 2 " set up isnt the greatest, but its much better then stock :thumbsup:

Yeah, the stock intake might encourage me (if I can't get the spectre one back) to get some new intake parts. I will admit my spectre is much better and makes a better sound than my OEM one. I want to get the MAF adapter so I can get a filter and call it done. I think I'm leaving my lower airbox to help support the intake.
 






when i move on the cone filter, i may do the same thing. at least use the bottom of the airbox as a support...
 






Let me post a pic of the intake I had on before testing it to find out it didn't work. I had the 02-03 MAF Sensor on it, which didn't work. It was a nice piece. What I was wondering is if I purchased the spectre MAF adapter if I could get my 05's MAF sensor to work with this intake I have.
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the spectre maf housing should work, but the intake pipe would need to be 3'' to match the housing size...

or you would have to find another coupling like the one you have on the throttle body. im going to guess and say thats a 3.5'' to 3'' coupling ?
 






the spectre maf housing should work, but the intake pipe would need to be 3'' to match the housing size...

or you would have to find another coupling like the one you have on the throttle body. im going to guess and say thats a 3.5'' to 3'' coupling ?

Yes it is. And thinking of this, I may have to do something for the filter or just get a spectre filter.
 






to make that set up work right there, you would need the following components...

Spectre Part #'s

8136 - cone filter

9405 - MAFS Housing

* 3.5'' to 3'' coupler

these should work
 






I'm going to keep this black intake, I think its worth more to me than the spectre one. Since this is the full intake, and reverting back to a stage 2 wouldn't be too great. I emailed back the company saying I don't want a return on it.

I will just get the parts listed above and get this intake up!

Can I get the mafs housing at pep boys or auto zone?
 






the Air Filter yes you can, but the MAFS housing you may need to buy online...
 






Success Story!

Great news to report! :D
My second attempt turned out 100% better than the first attempt. It barely fits, but there's enough room that it barely works. I sawed off the MAF housing from the airbox and rigged it up to work. Here's the pics:
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The throttle lag was almost 100% gone before this intake, now I can tell its back. After my full exhaust is done I will be going to get a tune. I took it out for a drive, no problems it kicks a bit now. The exhaust tone is a bit louder.
Stage 2 intake increased exhaust tone (stock):

Stage 3 intake increased exhaust tone (stock):


The stage two was taken inside of a garage so the echo makes it seem slightly louder.
 






Nate ! strong work brother !

" stage 2 " and " stage 3 " intakes make your X already sound like you have an exhaust !

stage 3 clips sounds like my 03 did when it just had a FM40 muffler on it with nothing else. that sounds great !

also why is the filter pushed so far forward ? how is the filter, and mafs connected ? pending what you had to do, you may be able to get a larger filter for your X, and im also suprised to hear that the lag came back ???
 






Nate ! strong work brother !

" stage 2 " and " stage 3 " intakes make your X already sound like you have an exhaust !

stage 3 clips sounds like my 03 did when it just had a FM40 muffler on it with nothing else. that sounds great !

also why is the filter pushed so far forward ? how is the filter, and mafs connected ? pending what you had to do, you may be able to get a larger filter for your X, and im also suprised to hear that the lag came back ???

The filter is so far foward because of what I had to do get it to work. I have 2 metal connecters in there to get the MAF, filter and to the pipe to fit. I'm going to be looking for ways to improve it. I am thinking of in the near future, buy the spectre MAF housing piece and possibly a larger filter. The MAF/Filter piece is about as large as the rest of the metal intake.
 






what about the lag ? how drastic of a change is it ?
 






what about the lag ? how drastic of a change is it ?

From the stage 2 its not too bad, from the stock its a bit worse. At certain points it will be a little worse than others. I'm going check all connections, make sure its a sealed unit, 'cause too much air slows it down. Like fedyfedz posted earlier in the thread...
happens on most vehciles when you put CAI , the A/F ratio is slightly off and it feels like the engine doesnt now what to do at some points. when you gun it it shifts perfect. I heard a tune will fix this changing shiftpoints and correcting the A/F ratio
And it doesn't help when these vehicles have throttle lag in the first place. A tune is my ultimate goal.
 






I hear that action... for christmas im hoping to get either a tune or some cragar soft 8 rims. still up in the air...
 



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My next thing is a muffler, then I'm thinking of some Rev Shooters Machine Face, or similar rims.
Found this from a thread, thought it was interesting. You may have read it already, but thought I'd post it.

Here's another throttle lag contributor:
Hey all. I haven't had my 2004 Explorer very long - about 3 months now, and one thing that annoys me is the throttle lag - which is really a lack of delicate throttle (pedal) control. Having owned a number of fords over the years where the accelerator (gas) pedal is hinged and uses a spring, and knowing the Explorer pedal is not hinged on the accelerator shaft - it is fixed - I thought I'd remove the accelerator assembly from the truck, and have a go at "fixing" it. The results are very, very good, and the cost was nil. Read on if you want to know how I did it:

1. Undo the 3 x 11mm (7/16" ??) nuts that hold the pedal assembly in the truck. Unclip the electrics, and remove complete pedal assembly from the vehicle.

2. The pedal is attached to the shaft using two large "toothed" rivets/pins. I put the assembly in a vice, and using a punch and a hammer, carefully (not really - more like brute strength), knocked/belted out the pins.

3. I then used a 4mm (approx 5/32") bolt and matching nyloc nut, with a washer each side, to hinge the pedal using the bottom holes of the pedal and the shaft (drilled "round" to match the 4mm diameter of the bolt), and also installed a "torsion spring" - the hinge bolt holds the spring in, and I had to drill a small hole in the plastic of the pedal backing and also one in the shaft to hold each end of the torsion spring in place.

The spring I used is like the one at the bottom left of the picture below. Don't laugh, but it actually used to perform duties in a set of BBQ tongs that died last week; it was the rescuing of the spring from the broken tongs that got me thinking about how I could use it for the Explorer pedal. OK, now you may laugh. At some stage, I will go to the local wreckers/car parts recyclers, and source an actual torsion spring used on a Ford accelerator pedal setup.
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The throttle is now far more sensitive and easier to use. A small amount of pressure on the pedal, now moves the pedal towards the flat (factory) position against the shaft, and the spring in turn forces the shaft to move quite slowly, but the overall effect is that the truck is no longer in a state of either stopped, or moving at full tilt - it now moves off the line quite sedately, and it is actually easier to get it moving. If you want to accelerate hard, then that is also easier to do, as you just apply more pressure to the pedal. I had previously found that to move off quickly required some finesse with your foot and the pedal, as the throttle always seem to be all or nothing. The new arrangement means you just squeeze the pedal, and the spring makes it a more linear progression from stopped to moving. Hard to explain, but if you hate the way the Explorer accelerator works, then this small mod is for you.

I have read of a few different ways to get around the throttle lag on the Explorer, and the most effective ones seem to be by removing find/vanes from the inside of the Throttle Body in the intake - this may result in smoother airflow, but I don't see how it can fix the lag which is actually a result of a poorly designed and executed accelerator pedal. Hinging the pedal and using a spring actually changes (for the better) the way the accelerator pedal works.

If you try this and don't like the way it performs, all you need to do is either put in the original pin in the upper hole in the pedal and shaft, or use a bolt and nyloc nut in those same holes to go back to a "fixed" pedal setup. I doubt you'll go back though.
OK, pulled it back out, and got some photos:
Pedal assembly with pedal removed
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Drill small hole for spring and cut off some of the shaft
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Trim plastic so spring fits
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