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2002 Humming-ish Noise From Rear (With Video)

PRESofUNIVERSE

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'02 XLT 4X4 4.0L SOHC
2002 Explorer XLT V6 4.0L SOHC Automatic with 119,469 miles

After searching, I thought it might be the differential or wheel bearings..... but I'm not too sure. The noise is heard between 35-45 mph. It began being noticeable like a month or two ago and has gotten louder. Here's a video of it, the noise can be heard especially between 0:50 to 1:10 and 1:20 to 1:37.

 



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It sounds like a differential bearing to me. Did you do the wobble the wheel test to check the wheel/hub bearings? You camera was in the back of the vehicle and the noise sounds like it was rear of vehicle. If no wobble I would guess it's differential bearings. Let us know what repair you did.
 






Thanks for the response! How would the wobble test be done on the rear wheels? (I searched and couldn't find it :( )
 






There's a good chance it's your rear diff AND bad rear wheel bearings.

The "wobble test" is simply jacking your rear wheels off the ground, and shaking them up/down and side/side...seeing if there's any play. It's an easy way to check for failed bearings. If there is any wobble or play, they are bad. However...if they feel solid, they may still be bad...but the rear hubs would have to be pulled. But any play at all, and they are for sure bad.

You have two different sounds there. You have the whine which is 100% coming from the differential. You also have what sounds like a roar in there which is what the bad wheel bearings sound like on these.

About the only thing you can do right now with your rear diff to try and quiet it down, is drain all of the diff fluid, and replace it with a 75w - 140 synthetic fluid, and ADD extra friction modifier. Depending on what auto parts store you have in your area, all they had in mine was Mobil1 75w - 140 and some little bottle of CRC brand friction modifier (comes in like a 4oz bottle). This did not help my diff whine at all. My diff was completely rebuilt at 60k miles by Ford because of the diff whine, and it reappeared at 100k. I'm now at 134k with the same whine, and it will just have to stay that way.

In the coming couple of months when it warms up, I am going to drain my diff again and try a better diff fluid. Either Royal Purple or Lucas, and see if that clears it up. Some people report that their whine went away with these brands, as the Mobil1 did absolutely nothing for me. What you're hearing back there is the differential clutch pack and ring/pinion noise. They wear quickly on these trucks...and it's all too common.

So my 2 suggestions to you, for both of these issues is:

#1 Jack up the rear end, one side at a time is fine. Try to wobble that wheel all around. If there is play, you have bad bearings.

#2 Drain and replace the rear diff fluid with a 75w - 140, quality brand. If you only have access to Mobil1...try it out, it's about $15-$18 a quart and you will need 2 of them, plus the extra friction modifier. The diff only takes about 1.5 quarts to fill. If you have access to something better like Royal Purple or Lucas, spend the extra $$ on it....

If you change the rear diff fluid and you still have the sound, you need to decide if you want to just live with the annoyance that is there, or go spend a hefty sum of $$ on having the rear diff rebuilt (new clutch pack and ring/pinion). It will be at least $1000, and that's being conservative.

You definitely have diff whine, 100% without a doubt.

Good job uploading the video. What the hell crashed back there at 35 seconds, lol
 






Again, thanks for the help :) and I'll try the wobble test soon-- my parents are gonna take it to the dealership next week I think :/.
I'll post what they wanna charge for then.
(and that crash was some wights i had to keep the tripod from flipping lol)
 






I had the wub wub wub with the roar sound in mine. Drivers rear wheel bearing. The whine is my next project. I guess I really didn't notice it with the bearing noises.
 












I have the same problem. '04 version. Complete rearend center section replaced at 30k miles under warranty. 127k and the noise has been back awhile. Put it up on jackstands to proove the mud tire sound was not the new Bridgestone Revo 2's. It sounds like the right rear. No wobble at the tire. Noise goes away in reverse. Guessing axle CV joint has worn thus causing the forward only noise. ??? Need to figure out the axle nut size and pull it out.
 






My parents took the car to the dealer because, in addition to the noise, the brakes started to shake the car :/. At the dealer they charged $345 for retooling the rotors and brakes, and diagnosed the humming as the rear hub bearings, which they charged $800, but when they went to go replace the hubs, apparently the e-brake was split and fell apart (a useless e-brake, which we before mentioned to them and they did nothing about), so they charged another $350 for... the car still isn't done so there is still the possibility that that wasn't the problem. I'll post back when they call again or when we get the car back.
 






Need to figure out the axle nut size and pull it out.

35mm

You can loan the tool for free from AutoZone if you don't want a random large socket in your tool drawer that you will probably never use again.
 






My parents took the car to the dealer because, in addition to the noise, the brakes started to shake the car :/. At the dealer they charged $345 for retooling the rotors and brakes, and diagnosed the humming as the rear hub bearings, which they charged $800, but when they went to go replace the hubs, apparently the e-brake was split and fell apart (a useless e-brake, which we before mentioned to them and they did nothing about), so they charged another $350 for... the car still isn't done so there is still the possibility that that wasn't the problem. I'll post back when they call again or when we get the car back.

Wow, all of that money down the drain and it doesn't even address the noise issue which is that of a whiny differential. Wait till that quote comes in, it'll be about $1600 for a complete rear differential rebuild.
 






We got the car back last Tuesday but i didn't get a chance to post... sorry... the total was around $1600 and the noise is actually gone. (yay!) So I guess the noise in this case was the hub bearings. Thanks again for all the help and stuff :)
 






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