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Anyone Use Engine Heaters?

Ranger379

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hey guys, since the weather is turning colder, i was just thinkin gabout a engine heater, anyone ever use them? any good? my truck has to be warm or it wont run right lol, what kind qould be better to get? the kind with the heating pad that u put on the bottome of oil pan? thanks for the info
 



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I think they are used mainly in Canada, and Alaska. The factory style block heaters are mounted onto a fitting on the engine block where there are dain plugs. If you remove one of them, coolant will come out. The knock sensor is connected into one of these areas.
 






If you are having problems when it is cold, then you might have an oil build up on the air charge temperature sensor, and an out of specification engine coolant temperature sensor. Here is a troubleshooting chart:
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I had one in my 96, and it was great. Ran great as soon as the key was started, and had full heat coming out of the vents in less than 1 mile. Took about 3 hours to warm up, so a timer will save you a few bucks on your electric bill. I loved it, and am considering one in my 98.
 






its not really cold here like way up north, but it does get pretty cold, would save on gas with practicvally no idleing, thats my concern,

Mbrooks, what kind did u have?
 






I was out in Montana last winter, and every car out there had a block heater. I was the only unlucky SOB without one since I had my new england vehicle. See the people out there on -40 degree F mornings and their car starts right up, while mine acted like it had peanut butter in the crank and tok forever to get anything close to heat.
 






Well the enegine/block heater just makes it easier to start and warms up a little faster. I usually dont use my block heater until it reaches around -20 celsius.

It also reduces engine wear since the engine dosent have to start so hard when its cold, oil at low temps turns pretty much into a gel so its hard to turn over. the block heater helps.
 






mine came out of the factory with a block heater, i have used it in the mountains and it served its purpose, took very little time to warm up and it was below 0
 












what would the better kind of heater be? one that goes in dipstick, one for the bottom of the pan, or one that goes into the rad. line. if i remeber right my teacher said that for the semi's they use water heaters b/c they will heat the rad, block, and oil...instead of just oil
 






I used to live in Fairbanks, Alaska, and most people would use blankets that wrapped around the entire bottom end of the engine block. Gotta love -70 and -110 windchills.
 






The best type is one that heats the block through a freeze plug., other than that the dipstick one is probaby the most efficient since itt would warm the oil, and air in the crank. The bottom of the pan ones would loose a lot of heat, as likely would the ones that go in the rad hose.
 






Block Heater;;Synthetic oils;; "Lube Oil 101"

I have driven a Diesel Benz for years. Block heaters (fitted in the water jacket, are imperative just to get the engine started.

The major benefit of a block heater is that the engine oil travels through the galleries very rapidly with a preheated engine providing quick lubrication.

My cold weather experience also comes from operating and maintaining aircraft. With an engine costing upwards of $20,000.00 for an overhaul, the wear caused by lack of lubrication at startup adds up to big bucks if it cuts even 15% off an engines life.

For a gas vehicle, and what I did on my Cessna aircraft was/is use semi-synthetic oil. The flow charecteristics are far superior at temperatures down to 0 deg. F.. If you live in an area where it gets below 32 deg F on a consistent basis, you will appreciate it. So will your engine, especially the cam shaft.

I now use semi-synthetic engine oil exclusively. A side benefit also is that the flash temperature of synthetics is somewhat higher, which reduces oil consumption due to high temperature flash off, especially during summer. Also, acid doesn't form in the synthetics as readily, as it does with petroleum oils from water contamination due to condensation on engine shutdown at low temps..

My 2 cents anyway.
 






i would like to get some type before winter, in regaurds to the ones that go in the rad hose, will that in anyway heat the oil? thinking of going with the kind that go on bottom the bottom of the oil pan, provided i can find a flat spot lol...
 






Block Heater Types; Water or Oill Pan

There is no comparison. The water jacket heater is the only one to use. This heats the whole engine block instead of just 4 or 5 qts of oil. Hot oil hitting cold galleries/rails adds up to cold oil and cold block. Cold oil hitting warm block (tremendous mass and heat inertia) adds up to warm block with warming oil through galleries.

The biggest benefit of the water jacket heater is that the moving metal parts, i.e. the crank and cam shaft and valve train, are warm at startup. Most metals are less ductile the colder they get, so the stresses are increased each cycle/rotation when rotating or reciprocating. This increases the stresses in the moving parts during the natural harmonic vibrations of a running engine.

IN A NUTSHELL; Use synthetic oils in the winter. If your area gets extremely cold for prolonged periods, get a water jacket heater. Use a timer. About three hours is a good number, as mentioned by someone, to pre-heat.

The oilpan heaters allow the car to crank easier, which makes you feel good, but do little to eliminate the root downside of cold starts.

PS; I change my oil once a year with semi-synthetic, or synthetic, period. I do it in the spring to eliminate any acids that may have developed from winter shutdown condensation in the oil. I use to be an every 3000 mi. man, but, well, maybe I'm just getting old and lazy, but, I did do alot of research.
 






what is the water jacket heater? the one that is put in the rad hose? do u have a link to a place that sells one? thanks
 






Just noticed you are in PA

Just use semi-synthetic oil. I personnally don't think block heaters for gas engines in our climate really are necessary. If you have an oil gage you'll notice the difference in how fast the oil pressure comes up vs petroleum based oils.
 






Water Jacket Heater

Same thing as the radiator hose or probe in the side of the engine block heater. Just terminology. They heat the water/block in the engines water (jacket) system.

As for supplier, I'd go to the (Ford) dealer to see what they offer. Then search the web for one that operates through the same location of the engine. Then pick one that is best bang for the buck.

Just noticed Mbrooks420 had one. Ask him if it was the water type and where he got it.
 









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