check engine light after oil change at Ford Dealer (95 explorer)

[EB4X]

They do have the OBD-II under the steering wheel, but does not communicate. I try With a ALTEL, and my autoXRAY no luck.

It's a prop...like a movie prop Pete !

 

[donalds]

It's a prop...like a movie prop Pete !

It is lol

 

[fastpakr]

Yes....all 95's are 1's ....the 95 should be it's OWN generation explorer....I just posted another 95 ONLY post ....

Thanks - I learned something new!

 

[96eb96]

BOIS I GOT IT!!!!

I cannot believe this sht. The IAT was completelty disconnected. This is a tight connector and there is NO WAY it can become undone on its own or even bumped by accident and if it came off before the oil change I would have had a CEL.

I suspected that these MFers were trying to pull one over me, and now I 100% think they are. As soon as i plugged it in the CEL went away.

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Sure, come back, they will be happy to make everything right for $200. I also came to a dealer for a cheap oil change, they did a free inspection and told me I need a new transfer case motor for $500. Turned out I had a bad ground, it is a pigtail wire that screws into the firewall at the back of the engine. If that don't make contact, you lose 4x4 low. Nothing to do with the motor. Works fine now.

 

[Pete Deering]

Sure, come back, they will be happy to make everything right for $200. I also came to a dealer for a cheap oil change, they did a free inspection and told me I need a new transfer case motor for $500. Turned out I had a bad ground, it is a pigtail wire that screws into the firewall at the back of the engine. If that don't make contact, you lose 4x4 low. Nothing to do with the motor. Works fine now.

I have the same problem, I clean up the ground. Haven't check the 4x4 low yet. I cant believe a ground wire causes that

 

[BKennedy]

Why do people take a 26 year old vehicle to the dealership? They are as likely to try and pull something as any other independent shop. The only dealership I trusted was when my brother worked as the senior service writer and would tell the mechanics that it was his brother's cars and not to screw around with them.
Now, I have a neighbor that owns a shop. I do almost everything myself just because I have trust issues. A oil change with these Explorers is as basic as it gets. You can slide under them without lifting them and do it it in 15 minutes. Get your oil/filters at Walmart or keep an eye on rockauto.com's close outs. I have six Wix filters for my Silverado that they were closing out for under $3 each so I bought all they had left. I have a few for each vehicle because they do wholesale closeouts on a regular basis.

 

[Pete Deering]

Why do people take a 26 year old vehicle to the dealership? They are as likely to try and pull something as any other independent shop. The only dealership I trusted was when my brother worked as the senior service writer and would tell the mechanics that it was his brother's cars and not to screw around with them.
Now, I have a neighbor that owns a shop. I do almost everything myself just because I have trust issues. A oil change with these Explorers is as basic as it gets. You can slide under them without lifting them and do it it in 15 minutes. Get your oil/filters at Walmart or keep an eye on rockauto.com's close outs. I have six Wix filters for my Silverado that they were closing out for under $3 each so I bought all they had left. I have a few for each vehicle because they do wholesale closeouts on a regular basis.

Normal I do my own service,but I have one car at my second home, that the HOA has pass a rule that you can not service your car in the community. So I bring my car to the dealership. I feel the dealership would be more honest than a local mechanic I don't know. The dealership that I go too has a oil change special bay. I used to go to a Sears service center,but now there closed. I hate going there and they always try to sell you more. I been doing my oil changes on the down low. I feel this service tech is a low life.

 

[Pete Deering]

Maybe the service tech , check the air filter, wiper and belts? During the oil change!

 

[J_C]

BOIS I GOT IT!!!!

I cannot believe this sht. The IAT was completelty disconnected. This is a tight connector and there is NO WAY it can become undone on its own or even bumped by accident and if it came off before the oil change I would have had a CEL.

I suspected that these MFers were trying to pull one over me, and now I 100% think they are. As soon as i plugged it in the CEL went away.

Yeah that is extremely suspicious. I'd complain to the owner, then never take a vehicle back there.

 

[1sicbronconut]

Maybe the service tech , check the air filter, wiper and belts? During the oil change!

More than likely what happened, it was unplugged to lift up the air cleaner box lid to check the filter and it didn't get plugged back in, **** happens when you have 18 years old's changing oil all day long. I'm not saying it's right and the dealership I work for would have at least checked the codes for you. I very rarely pop up here because as a dealership technician with 33 plus years experience I really get tired of all of the ragging on a few bad dealership that make all of them look bad. My $.02

 

[J_C]

^ Good point, though when the service mgr stated "oh the light was on when we pulled it in!" instead of addressing their mistake (if it was one), the end result for the vehicle owner is the same.

 

[Rod's Repair]

As a retired senior master tech and service manager at a dealership, I've seen it many times. As stated , tech unplugged to check a/f and failed to plug it back in. They almost always claim they plugged it in. We would clear the codes and verify it was fixed, then give the customer a free oil change. Customer satisfaction was more important to us than the price of an oil change.

 

[Flashflood]

It is lol

Nope I've heard 95s it's for reading abs codes. Check engine obd1

 

[Pete Deering]

Nope I've heard 95s it's for reading abs codes. Check engine obd1
Flash flood, what do you mean?, please clarify.

 

[Flashflood]

The "OBD 2" port under the dash is only for reading abs codes off of on 95's, I've heard. For some odd reason ford decided to not upgrade to OBD 2 until 96 the standard year. So if you want read a check engine on your 95, better know the paperclip method if it still works on them.

 

[Pete Deering]

I try too read ABS code from that port under the dash ' can not communicate response'. What code Reader did you uses to read ABS codes?

 

[Flashflood]

I try too read ABS code from that port under the dash ' can not communicate response'. What code Reader did you uses to read ABS codes?

Hmm was the light on? Jk. I.d.k man I read from the post above that your using a pretty nice quality scanner so... maybe it was a build date thing is we don't have our 95 anymore. But maybe it's just a ford thing that you can't pull codes until the light stays on. I've been trying to hunt down a code on my 2000 that only shows up while really cold and driving. Or it'll just pop up. But if I try to read with no light nothing.

 

[Pete Deering]

I have watched a few YouTube videos on the topic, where the shop took you thru the scanner display and show you the result. It was not on a 95 explorer, there was no CEL display and they show the problem on the screen, and the fix. FlashFlood stated he heard.

 

[96eb96]

Why do people take a 26 year old vehicle to the dealership? They are as likely to try and pull something as any other independent shop. The only dealership I trusted was when my brother worked as the senior service writer and would tell the mechanics that it was his brother's cars and not to screw around with them.
Now, I have a neighbor that owns a shop. I do almost everything myself just because I have trust issues. A oil change with these Explorers is as basic as it gets. You can slide under them without lifting them and do it it in 15 minutes. Get your oil/filters at Walmart or keep an eye on rockauto.com's close outs. I have six Wix filters for my Silverado that they were closing out for under $3 each so I bought all they had left. I have a few for each vehicle because they do wholesale closeouts on a regular basis.

Usually do my own work but for $19.99 at a dealer, I figured it is cheaper than DIY. They didn't screw up but they sure checked the truck from head to toe to look for things. They even tested 4x4 low. They were confident about the motor being bad, they said don't feel bad, it happens to new F150s :lol:. They have a very similar shift motor.

 

[Pete Deering]

My question is if the dealer check the 4x4 low, and state it was the motor. How can if be the motor if 4x4 high works?