Delphi fuel pumps.

[98 MERC]

No way am i going to pay FORD's crazy price for a pump.I have herd great things about these delphi's

But one thing that looks off to me is the price on amazon VS napa.

https://www.amazon.com/Delphi-HP10128-Hanger-Assembly-Sending/dp/B0054TR53M/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t



https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/DFPHP10128

 

[98 MERC]

Could the amazon one just be a china fake ???

 

[koda2000]

I've installed 6 Bosch fuel pumps (I just changed the pump, as I saw no reason to replace the assembly). Bought them all off eBay. They ran around $60 and every ones has worked perfectly. Why spend more? It's actually easier to change just the pump, as you don't have to disconnect the fuel line from the hanger assembly (which can be a bear).

 

[98 MERC]

My assembly has other problems like gurgling noises. Probly rotten hose with a hole in it.I wont be doing the work.My mechanic is.I just figure with the whole assembly being 20 years old that with my luck the level sending unit will go bad in a year after replacing just the motor.

 

[CDW6212R]

Try to use the old pickup assembly if you can, they are likely better quality sending units etc. I noticed that good pricing a while ago too, while hunting a specific pump I'm actually just now ready to get. Unless your assembly is really nasty from corrosion etc, I'd reuse it. The rubber hoses come with new pumps generally.

For a pump, Bosch is good, Walbro is the common brand for hot rodders etc. I ran across a brand(HFP) a while ago that has a lifetime warrantee on theirs, and I was after a 255ltr/hr pump. The stock one is maybe 80ltr/hr, and the normal first level people used to jump to for "performance" was 110 and then 155ltr/hr.

Below is the link to Amazon for the one I will end up with, they have several socks with the pump, but this Explorer version has a wiring adapter which plugs in to the pump and to the car wiring, no splicing needed. Hopefully that wiring adapter isn't very long, I hate wasteful excess wiring.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NTOCQ...TF8&colid=32X1ZA2MRI77P&coliid=I3DO1IQBHR633S

That HFP brand touts as being quieter than most pumps, reviews on Mustang forums confirm it. So I hope they are that good, I plan to need three of those for sure, one for my 99 Limited now.

If you might like a pump from them, here's the Amazon link to their replacement pump, about 110ltr/hr flow; https://www.amazon.com/HFP-382-Repl...e=UTF8&qid=1491594027&sr=1-1&keywords=HFP-382

The 255ltr/hr is really unnecessary for a basically stock engine, I'm aiming for more power later.

 

[98 MERC]

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,1998,explorer,5.0l+v8,1304435,fuel+&+air,fuel+pump,6256

 

[98 MERC]

I noticed that a bosch is more the the motor craft.The ford dealer wanted like 550$ for a motorcraft.

 

[98 MERC]

https://www.amazon.com/Motorcraft-PFS58-Fuel-Hanger-Sender/dp/B000C5DQYA

Amazon has the motorcraft cheaper then rock auto.Dont we get some kind of discount on rock auto ?

 

[CDW6212R]

Yes, 5% is the standard discount. We have a Rock Auto thread here listing the active discount code, check that before ordering. Place the code in the place asking where you heard about them, that's it, right before the payment page.

 

[CDW6212R]

I like the Bosch pump pricing, $54 is good, but you need to know which terminal size we have. I hate those weird parts changes that don't apply to us but we have to figure out what the deal is.

 

[Runnin'OnEmpty]

I too like the Bosch pump. The last one I ordered included a wiring harness adapter to
connect to either terminal size. It was short, maybe 3-4 inches, and was plug-and-play.

When replacing the pump, change out both the soft lines since they tend to crack at
the clamps and cause a pressure loss. Be sure to use 30R10 rated hose, for submerged
fuel use.

 

[98 MERC]

Honestly i am thinking about picking up the motorcraft one they have on rock auto.That is good price for OEM with our discount.I would go bosch if i was just replacing the motor but i am doing the whole assembly.

 

[koda2000]

I like the Bosch pump pricing, $54 is good, but you need to know which terminal size we have. I hate those weird parts changes that don't apply to us but we have to figure out what the deal is.

Most if not all of the OE pumps use a thin terminal, but the Bosch pumps I've bought come with the jumper wire to adapt to the thicker terminal pump. No splicing necessary. The Bosch pumps I've purchased come with enough submersible hose to do the pump and the upper piece and some FI hose clamps. You just need a strainer sock and a new fuel filter.

Here's an example of the pumps I've used...
Note:You will not use the large O-ring seals or both insulators.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bosch-69128...ash=item1a2489393e:g:wuMAAOSwkl5Xc5V8&vxp=mtr

 

[CDW6212R]

I just called HFP and Shawn there told me that the Amazon link to the pump I mentioned is the one I need for my Explorers. So I bought two of them which should be here Sunday(bigger cities get Sunday delivery by the PO).

He also confirmed that they do make a lower volume pump for milder or stock Explorers. It's an HFP-382 model and it's also listed on Amazon, for about $53. That's the one I would go for if I needed just a replacement pump. It also comes with the adapter needed to plug into the pickup assembly wiring. He said that some people haven't used the screen/socks they send with the pumps, but the normal replacement socks go right on. So it's not a big deal to buy their pump and get the sock with it, the pump is what's special that you want. It's the same improved design, versus the stock design everyone else makes.

Again here's the replacement pump from HFP, $52.98 from Amazon Prime;
https://www.amazon.com/HFP-382-Repl...e=UTF8&qid=1491594027&sr=1-1&keywords=HFP-382

 

[koda2000]

I just called HFP and Shawn there told me that the Amazon link to the pump I mentioned is the one I need for my Explorers. So I bought two of them which should be here Sunday(bigger cities get Sunday delivery by the PO).

He also confirmed that they do make a lower volume pump for milder or stock Explorers. It's an HFP-382 model and it's also listed on Amazon, for about $53. That's the one I would go for if I needed just a replacement pump. It also comes with the adapter needed to plug into the pickup assembly wiring. He said that some people haven't used the screen/socks they send with the pumps, but the normal replacement socks go right on. So it's not a big deal to buy their pump and get the sock with it, the pump is what's special that you want. It's the same improved design, versus the stock design everyone else makes.

Again here's the replacement pump from HFP, $52.98 from Amazon Prime;
https://www.amazon.com/HFP-382-Repl...e=UTF8&qid=1491594027&sr=1-1&keywords=HFP-382

FYI: From the photo provided it does not appear that there is enough submersible fuel line to install the fuel pump and replace the other piece of hose that connects to the supply line. If not and you want to replace the supply line hose, which is highly advisable, be sure to buy submersible hose. I know the older models did not have the F/P regulator on the hanger assembly, but when I changed the fuel pump on our '97 a year ago, I think I still needed 2 pieces of hose.

 

[CDW6212R]

I'll check the other HFP pump I received recently, and measure the length of the hose. Usually it's long enough to do both hose lengths. I have a used assembly somewhere nearby too, I know where my 99-01 unit is. If I can find that, I'll measure what the old hoses are in length.

 

[CDW6212R]

I received the two HFP-342 pumps yesterday. I measured the short length of hose in the kit, and it's 3 1/8" long, plenty to replace the one hose used in the pre-99 vehicles. 1999 and up use two short lengths to include the FPR device above the pump.

 

[koda2000]

I received the two HFP-342 pumps yesterday. I measured the short length of hose in the kit, and it's 3 1/8" long, plenty to replace the one hose used in the pre-99 vehicles. 1999 and up use two short lengths to include the FPR device above the pump.

Oh, okay. I couldn't remember if my '97 needed 2 pieces of hose or not. I know my 2000's-2001's needed 2 pieces of hose because of the FPR location.

 

[SupaSwope]

I just replaced mine a few weeks ago, I was driving down the highway at 75 and she just died. Sucked cause I was in the middle lane of a 4 lane highway during rush hour... yeahh... had to call local state troupers(highway partol) to give me a push. Coud not even get out of my car lol..

Anyways. I used a precision fuel pump assembly from O'rileys for 2 reasons. 1. It was on the companys dime. and 2. That's all they sell lol. Works fine so far. But my only complaint is that the gague likes to go up and down sometimes within a quarter depending on the tank being slashed around. the OEM motor craft did not do that.

 

[CDW6212R]

I just replaced mine a few weeks ago, I was driving down the highway at 75 and she just died. Sucked cause I was in the middle lane of a 4 lane highway during rush hour... yeahh... had to call local state troupers(highway partol) to give me a push. Coud not even get out of my car lol..

Anyways. I used a precision fuel pump assembly from O'rileys for 2 reasons. 1. It was on the companys dime. and 2. That's all they sell lol. Works fine so far. But my only complaint is that the gague likes to go up and down sometimes within a quarter depending on the tank being slashed around. the OEM motor craft did not do that.

Ah, so you had the whole assembly changed, and the gauge fluctuates now? That tells us a lot, the fuel level assembly is not something that usually needs replacing. But bad gas and older vehicles that may have set for months or years, they will begin needing that. SOme of the brands don't cost a ton, under $100, but nobody wants one that doesn't show the level well. I've driven a USPS POS white truck for about six years, and those would gain a 1/4 tank or lose 1/4 tank, depending on whether you are on the gas or brakes.