Electric Parking Brake automatically engages when shifted to park

[farmwife24]

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Here is what the 2022 Manual says;

The electric parking brake could apply
when you shift to park (P) without the
brake pedal fully pressed. The electric
parking brake applies when you shift to
park (P) on large slopes. The electric
parking brake releases with the drive away
release function or manually.

I didn't find anything indicating that going into Park would automatically engage the electric parking brake. It seems that it may if the brake pedal isn't fully depressed when selecting Park.

EDIT: Since merging the other thread on this topic, it appears it is a new software "fix".

Peter

the manual may say that but that’s not what mine does. It engages EVER time I shift to park or sit with my foot on the brake for awhile.
I’m looking to see if others are having this issue.

 

[peterk9]

Did you ever get any answers to this? Hate it. And mine likes to jump when I shift from drive to Reverse and I am engaging the parking brake when shifting.
Hate the dial shift. Hate the parking brake buttons. Hate the fact Ford think is they have to add these or what they think are safety features but only add more issues.
This is my 5th explorer and I can honestly say the first one I haven’t liked right out of the box. Should have kept the 9 year old 170,000 one I traded.

Welcome to the Forum.
The parking brake engaging when you shift to Park is a design of the vehicle.
I'm not clear on what you mean by this statement; "And mine likes to jump when I shift from drive to Reverse and I am engaging the parking brake when shifting." There should be no reason for the brake to engage when shifting from D to R.
When I apply the Parking Brake and shift to either D or R, the brake releases without any issue as soon as I begin to accelerate. No jump at all.
Don't forget that you also have the option of releasing it manually.

 

[Papa427]

Welcome to the Forum.
The parking brake engaging when you shift to Park is a design of the vehicle.
I'm not clear on what you mean by this statement; "And mine likes to jump when I shift from drive to Reverse and I am engaging the parking brake when shifting." There should be no reason for the brake to engage when shifting from D to R.
When I apply the Parking Brake and shift to either D or R, the brake releases without any issue as soon as I begin to accelerate. No jump at all.
Don't forget that you also have the option of releasing it manually.

Yup, welcome to the horizontal differential mount bolt BS recall fix. Due to not having the 4 bolt rear frame assembly available for 2022 ST production Ford opted to use the 3 bolt frame normally used on the 2.3 / 2.7L engines. Hey the 3.0L EcoBoost only puts out 415ftlb of torque so it will be fine. Right? Wrong.. Differential mount bolts are breaking. This may/will allow the driveshaft to become disconnected. When that happens putting the trans in park will not hold the vehicle from rolling over you while your checking out all the damage to the drive train. So the fix is to automatically set the emergency brake when the trans is shifted into park. Nice! The ST and certain Police vehicles supposedly get the diff mount bolt replaced as part of the recall. I have to
Ass u me a higher strength bolt. I had the parking brake PCM reprogram part of the recall done in April. But I guess China can't provide the bolt needed to complete the recall. So we need to lay off the go peddle or buy one of the several aftermarket differential mount braces. I don't know if Ford will cancel the warranty if we do that.

 

[edwx]

I had my "bolt" recall done 2 weeks ago. They did it in about an hour, and did the PCM reprogram also for the parking brake. I really don't have a problem with it. Not an optimal situation, but no a big deal either. Pretty easy to get used to, and it works well, for now anyway. Frankly, living way up north in the snow, salt and sandy winters for many years with gen 2-5 Explorers, the parking brake would become a joke from non use after a couple years. I don't mind it getting a little exercise. Also, the truck always seemed to roll a little after putting it in park...not great getting out of the truck on ice. Glad that's stopped.

 

[Brockdog12]

Finally get a vehicle with no Start/Stop installed, BUT get an auto engaging parking brake instead.

 

[SpacemanSpiff2023]

Hello. Just joined the forum!

Any idea if the 2023 Explorers (Limited trim) will have a mechanical fix for this (recall 22s27 rear axle bolt) or will also employ the automatically engaging e-brake? I’m considering a new 2023 buy versus a 2022 buy and then having to fix/replace bolt to an avoid needing the e-brake safety recall fix.

 

[peterk9]

Hello. Just joined the forum!

Any idea if the 2023 Explorers (Limited trim) will have a mechanical fix for this (recall 22s27 rear axle bolt) or will also employ the automatically engaging e-brake? I’m considering a new 2023 buy versus a 2022 buy and then having to fix/replace bolt to an avoid needing the e-brake safety recall fix.

Welcome to the Forum.
I can't say for sure but I have a feeling that this e-brake feature may be a permanent thing. I honestly don't see why there is such a fuss about it,
It releases on its own when you put the vehicle in gear and press on the accelerator. I don't have it on mine but have tested it by manually engaging the brake and then putting the vehicle in gear and driving off as usual. Piece of cake.

Peter

 

[Papa427]

Hello. Just joined the forum!

Any idea if the 2023 Explorers (Limited trim) will have a mechanical fix for this (recall 22s27 rear axle bolt) or will also employ the automatically engaging e-brake? I’m considering a new 2023 buy versus a 2022 buy and then having to fix/replace bolt to an avoid needing the e-brake safety recall fix.

I may be wrong on this, but as I understand it, the reason for the 22S27 recall on the 2022 Explorer ST and certain Police vehicles was due to the use of a 3 bolt rear axel sub-frame on these vehicles instead of the 4 bolt subframe that was not available at the time of production.
I believe the 2022 Lincoln Aviator also used the 4 bolt sub frame. The software reprogram was a safety mandate due to if the bolt shears the drive shaft can come out of the differential. If that happens putting the vehicle in Park won't hold the vehicle from rolling. Causing possible injury or death. I had the software reprogram of the recall on my 2022 ST done in April.
Depending on the Dealership service manager I talk to, this is all my ST needs, or, "We still don't have the parts. If you still are considering a 2022 ST. There is a
letter from Ford Corperat to Dealerships that they are not to sell or even demonstrate a 2022 ST that has not had the recall completed. Failure to do so as I understand it, would cost the dealer a $20,000 fine!

 

[Papa427]

Long story short. Got a new 22 ST to replace my 20 ST. Drove it for about 700 miles and the transmission trashed itself. Quite the surprise as I had driven it really easy and have no mods. Symptoms were hard downshifts, particularly from 6 to 7 gear.

Dealer tried to replace valve body to no avail, but upon further review found metal parts in pan and replaced whole transmission.

Immediately upon getting my Explorer back after nearly 4 weeks I noticed that every time I shifted into park the parking brake was automatically applied.

After a short discussion with the dealer it was learned that this new transmission had the “recall fix” applied.

The parking brake will stay on until you shift into gear and either press the button or gas pedal.

I expect this change will becoming to all recalled Explorers in the next few months.

Did they also replace the bolt and bushing which is also part of the 22S27 Recall for the ST. I have been waiting since April
to have that done. The dealer keeps saying we don't have the parts. BS.

 

[peterk9]

Did they also replace the bolt and bushing which is also part of the 22S27 Recall for the ST. I have been waiting since April
to have that done. The dealer keeps saying we don't have the parts. BS.

Given the overall shortage of parts nationwide, I don't know why the dealer's response would not be believed. There is no benefit to them not to do the job.

Peter

 

[blwnsmoke]

Did you ever get any answers to this? Hate it. And mine likes to jump when I shift from drive to Reverse and I am engaging the parking brake when shifting.
Hate the dial shift. Hate the parking brake buttons. Hate the fact Ford think is they have to add these or what they think are safety features but only add more issues.
This is my 5th explorer and I can honestly say the first one I haven’t liked right out of the box. Should have kept the 9 year old 170,000 one I traded.

Sell it.

 

[SpacemanSpiff2023]

The software fix is a bandaid, the bolt still has risk of shear, and would need to be fixed (and other things that could end up damaged as a result?). If you get in the habit of disengage the e-brake after it auto-engages, then the roll away safety feature is defeated. It’s unclear to me how one would know the bolt sheared, I think someone mentioned it would Lead to grinding noise or something while driving?

 

[Papa427]

Given the overall shortage of parts nationwide, I don't know why the dealer's response would not be believed. There is no benefit to them not to do the job.

Peter

Hi Peter
Yes I understand the problems with the supply chain these days is causing big problems. However, with what I'm being told by my dealership's service department is that my 2022 ST having completed the parking brake reprogram is now in compliance with Recall 22S27. The Recall notices I have received and researched on-line report that along with certain Police vehicles the (2022 Explorer 3.0L Gas) will also need the bolt, bushing and cover replaced in accordance with the Recall. Not sure what the "cover" is. But, my dealership says they have COMPLETED the recall on my vehicle by reprogramming of the parking brake.

 

[Dale5403]

Hi Peter
Yes I understand the problems with the supply chain these days is causing big problems. However, with what I'm being told by my dealership's service department is that my 2022 ST having completed the parking brake reprogram is now in compliance with Recall 22S27. The Recall notices I have received and researched on-line report that along with certain Police vehicles the (2022 Explorer 3.0L Gas) will also need the bolt, bushing and cover replaced in accordance with the Recall. Not sure what the "cover" is. But, my dealership says they have COMPLETED the recall on my vehicle by reprogramming of the parking brake.

The cover is the rear deferential cover. It only gets replaced if the bolt has broke causing damage to it. Same applies to the bushing and bolt. If not reprogramming completes the recall.

 

[SpacemanSpiff2023]

The Recall lists build dates for 2022s through March of 2022. I’m looking at buying a Limited explorer with build date of May 2022. I can’t figure out if it has the rear differential issue or not. I was thinking they put a hold on deliveries, and would have fixed it for new builds. But maybe they only did the PCM software fix (not a mechanical fix) prior to delivery, and that’s the only reason the Recall does not apply to this build.
I also can’t find whether or not new 2023s have this fixed, via stronger bolt or redesign.

 

[peterk9]

The Recall lists build dates for 2022s through March of 2022. I’m looking at buying a Limited explorer with build date of May 2022. I can’t figure out if it has the rear differential issue or not. I was thinking they put a hold on deliveries, and would have fixed it for new builds. But maybe they only did the PCM software fix (not a mechanical fix) prior to delivery, and that’s the only reason the Recall does not apply to this build.
I also can’t find whether or not new 2023s have this fixed, via stronger bolt or redesign.

I believe all new Explorers being built will have this feature. It also would not surprise me if this became a standard feature regardless of the 'bolt' issue. I for one, wouldn't mind it and actually consider it a 'non-issue'.

Peter

 

[ExplorerBMW]

Glad I found this thread, I just got my new 2023 today and it was doing that, strange why Ford decided on that.

 

[peterk9]

Glad I found this thread, I just got my new 2023 today and it was doing that, strange why Ford decided on that.

You'll have to read back through the thread as to why it was done. I believe it is somewhat related to this thread.https://www.explorerforum.com/forums/threads/calling-all-my2021-my2022-explorer-st-platinum-king-ranch-and-aviators-rear-subframe-poll.496220/

Peter

 

[Mmichels]

I also have a’21 Explorer with the software “fix” to solve the recall. Has anyone had issues with the parking break failing to release after getting the “fix?” Mine was updated a few months ago and today the break would not release, I had to turn the car off, then on then off and on again before it would finally release. Obviously I need to take it in to get looked at, but I’m just curious if this is a common problem.

 

[Pedro504]

Ford will not update my 2021 Platinum to automatically set the e-brake so we set it manually.
Ford claims my vehicle is not covered in the bolt failure recall even though it's equipped with the V6 and the factory hitch.
Personally, my preference is to have it set automatically.

Hopefully the bolt doesn't brake when I'm towing the trailer.