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hmm...was wrong about premium, but anyway I don't think it will give too much of a noticable fuel economy increase than using regular. I know premium in utah is about .10 more than mid-grade (88 octane), and paying .10 more per gallon will add up, and I doubt the fuel savings will.
I beleive ford recommends 88 octane gasoline.
Fuel Economy

Do You Really Need Premium?
And Answers to Other Gasoline Questions
By Philip Reed, Senior Consumer Advice Editor
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Date Posted 08-30-2007
Buying premium gas is like taking vitamins — you can't always feel the difference and yet you know it's the right thing to do. But as gas prices climb, paying the extra dime per gallon for premium is like adding insult to injury. Eventually, the thought is bound to jump into your head: Do I really need to pop for premium?

Until about 15 years ago, if a car called for premium gas and you pumped in regular, the car began to knock and ping and even vibrate. But that was before they essentially put a laptop under the hood of the automobile, said Dr. Loren Beard, senior manager of Environmental and Energy Planning, for Daimler Chrysler. Now, sensors take readings and tune the engine as you drive by adjusting the timing for whatever fuel you put in the tank.

The result is that a car that calls for the mid-grade gasoline will usually run on regular without knocking, Beard said. However, its performance will suffer slightly. How much? It will be perhaps a half-second slower going from zero to 60 mph.

Volvo cars call for "premium fuel [91 octane or better] for optimum performance and fuel economy," said Wayne Baldwin, product/segment manager for the S60/S80. "However, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using 87 octane, as the knock sensors and engine management system 'protect' the engine from knocking."

Baldwin, a former rally driver who competed in SCCA Pro Rally events, said that engines have changed a lot in the past 15 years. "Cars built before 1990 probably do not have knock sensors and many brands back then relied on high-compression ratios for the best performance. Today [performance comes from] electronically controlled spark curves, turbos, variable valve timing, supercharging and knock sensors."

Issues of performance aside, Baldwin said you should never use gasoline that causes your car to knock. "Constant knocking or detonation is a real bad thing for engines," he said.

When choosing what grade of gasoline to use, Steve Mazor, principal auto engineer for the Auto Club of Southern California, said it is important to read the owner's manual carefully. The key is to figure out whether premium gasoline is "required" or "recommended." If it is recommended then a driver could opt to use a lower grade of gas, if they were willing to accept slightly reduced performance and fuel economy.

However, Mazor added, "We don't recommend that people switch down. Let's say you switch down to regular, and you have to accelerate to avoid an accident and it doesn't accelerate fast enough. The Auto Club can't be responsible for causing that situation."

Edmunds.com had a Volvo S40 in its fleet, so we consulted the owner's manual to see the exact phrasing in regard to fuel requirements. It said, "Volvo engines are designed for optimum performance on unleaded premium gasoline with an AKI (Anti Knock Index) of 91 or above. The minimum octane requirement is AKI 87." It appears that Volvo is making a recommendation for premium gas but is not requiring it.

In Edmunds.com's forums, debates abound over the pros and cons of using different fuel grades. One member even suggested there was only one type of gasoline, no difference — except for price — between regular and premium. Other members recommended using premium gas even if the manual called for regular. We put this question to Mazor and Beard.

Mazor: "All this does is do a very good job of draining your wallet. People used to put in a tank of premium to get 'the good stuff' to help their engines stay clean. But now they put detergents in all grades so it doesn't really get you anything."

Beard: "If you have car designed to run on 87 [octane], it doesn't help to run it on higher-octane-level gas. But there are several exceptions." He said that the 3.5-liter Chrysler engines are designed to run on mid-grade gas (89 octane) and it allows them to advertise a certain peak horsepower. However, it will run well on regular gas. "The difference is very small," he said.

Interestingly, Mazor noted that at some gas stations, there are only two grades of gas. However, they blend the regular and premium at the pump to produce the mid-grade gasoline. This allows them to have only two underground tanks for the gas storage.

In Edmunds' forums some drivers expressed concern about the quality of gas sold at independent gas stations and advised sticking to the so-called "name" brands of gasoline.

"Typically the only difference is the additive package they put in the gas," Beard said. The additive package is often put into the gas as the tanker is filled up at the refinery. A common additive is a detergent agent. "The law requires a certain level of detergents in gasoline. Shell, for example, is putting in more detergent. — Whether that has a measurable effect to the driver is debatable."

Detergents have a marked effect on engine deposits. "If you take apart a modern engine that has been running on a modern fuel, and compare this to an old engine that was running on old gas, you can see an obvious difference," Mazor said.

The biggest difference between today's gas and the gas sold 15 years ago is the removal of lead. Taking out the lead, and developing effective catalytic converters to more completely burn emissions, have radically cut pollution.

The major oil companies each have a magical-sounding name for their gasoline and tout its superiority over other brands. The difference is the additives or the amount of detergent added to the gas that comes from the refinery. The benefit of these additive packages is lost to most drivers, who simply fill up at the gas station with the cheapest prices or the one for which they carry a credit card.

Does a gas expert like Beard have a preference when buying gas? "I just watch the light on the dash. After it has been on for a day I get nervous and go to the closest station available."
 



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i average around 16-19mpg at 80mph+ on the turnpike with 31" tires and a lead foot so im satisfied
 






I am currently 17mgp city and 26mpg hwy. K&N filter system stock exhaust but soon to be removing the resonator. 32" tires and 3" body lift with new rear suspension...fronts coming soon....:)
 






My truck is going into the shop for some maintenance before the end of the month. I don't think the fuel filter has been changed in awhile I should probably do that. I'm also draining auto tranny fluid. Think I should switch to synthetic? Also getting a new serpentine belt put on. Might get a new battery I think mine is old and it scares me sometimes in the winter but that can wait a few months. Are spark plugs on our x's easy to do yourself? I was hoping to save some money and do that myself along with the oil.
 






Are spark plugs on our x's easy to do yourself? I was hoping to save some money and do that myself along with the oil.
Yes, change the tranmission to synthetic. You're going to pay (out of pocket) for it, but it is worth it. I don't think my transmission is being run on synthetic.
Spark Plugs:
From what I can tell yes. You got to have a spark plug socket (you probably know this) for the proper sized spark plug. The only difficult ones look to be 1 and 4. Make sure the engine is completely cold, like park it in a shady area or garage, and let it sit overnight, and then in the morning remove the spark plugs. If the engine is at all warm, the threads both on the engine block, and the spark plug will strip out. Don't want that to happen.
 






Yes, change the tranmission to synthetic. You're going to pay (out of pocket) for it, but it is worth it. I don't think my transmission is being run on synthetic.
Spark Plugs:
From what I can tell yes. You got to have a spark plug socket (you probably know this) for the proper sized spark plug. The only difficult ones look to be 1 and 4. Make sure the engine is completely cold, like park it in a shady area or garage, and let it sit overnight, and then in the morning remove the spark plugs. If the engine is at all warm, the threads both on the engine block, and the spark plug will strip out. Don't want that to happen.

If I just say I want synthetic trans fluid is that enough or should I ask for a certain type same with the motor. I know about the socket I am probably going to pick that up soon I was thinking about switching over to e3 plugs when I do the switch.
 






If ford does the motor oil change, they'll use the synthetic blend oil change.
Transmission:
-I would think just asking for synthetic transmission fluid would get you what you want.
--Well its a mystery (to a point) what ford's using (I know they're using one of their brands). I'd go talk to the person at your ford store's parts counter.
-Motorcraft has a high quality synthetic blend, possibly a full synthetic. What they call it anymore I don't know. It used to be called Dexron III or Mercon V.
--But if you want full-out synthetic, I don't know whats good and whats bad. Someone else can answer that.
 






I have made the switch to full synthetic motor oil ( MOBIL 1 )... with synthetic you may pay a little more, but the time between changes is extended... you can go 6,000 miles, instead of only 3,000.

i cant wait till i get synthetic transfluid done
 






I go 4,000 before I change the oil. The price of that full synthetic oil kills me:dead:. I honestly couldn't pay that much for oil. So the next best thing synthetic blend. Motorcraft's synthetic blend seems to be fairly inexpensive.
 






I plan on just going to my wrench twister up the block for my transfluid change. So now I try and decide between a synthetic blend and full synthetic. I might make a call ahead and ask them if they will do a synthetic transfluid for my model truck.
 






when you were talking about getting the plugs done, i strongly suggest staying with motorcraft plugs...

our X's can be picky with plugs, it have read across the forum that best results are made with the factory motorcraft plugs for stock, and lightly modified X's...
 






thanks for the heads up before I drop the money on them. What happens that makes our trucks so picky? Does it not fire or something?
 






I havent had to change plugs in either of my X's, but some people have notcied that plugs ( other than motorcraft ) seem to foul really quick...

most people on the forum will tell you to stick with motorcraft, for optimum results.

I believe the factory gap for the plugs is .54 if you do them yourself
 






Yea I was planning on doing them myself. I'm at 78k I think Im just trying to tune her up figured plugs would be pretty simple way. Thanks for the gap I was going to have to search the book for that. You know of anyone running e3 plugs or does everyone run motorcraft.
 






Yea I was planning on doing them myself. I'm at 78k I think Im just trying to tune her up figured plugs would be pretty simple way. Thanks for the gap I was going to have to search the book for that. You know of anyone running e3 plugs or does everyone run motorcraft.

I know my brother, who has a mustang runs e3 plugs. Runs good for him. He says he feels like his car has more "response". Don't know how they run in explorers.
But you shouldn't need to repalce the spark plugs until 100K. Thats what my service advisor told me when I wanted to change out my plugs.
 






Alright I'm just going through my checklist of trying to recover my mpg's I seem to be down allot and I'm being easy on the gas haha.
 






My 98 is doing horrible on gas mileage. I think its probably doing 13mpg town and 17 highway. It used to do 19mpg-25mpg.
My 05's doing good on gas...if you call 16-18 mpg good. :D
 






Nate, I would love to be in the ballpark you are lol... but that wont happen until i do some futher fine tuning, but then again i also do all city, stop and go every 2 blocks lol...
 






Nate, I would love to be in the ballpark you are lol... but that wont happen until i do some futher fine tuning, but then again i also do all city, stop and go every 2 blocks lol...

That is my life too I feel your pain.
 



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I may be down in the low teens for gas mileage soon. The city I live in is really growing in population. More stop lights, more stopping. I soon may feel your pain too. But before that happens, I'll see if I cant get my X's gas mileage higher. :D
 






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