Gas modified by Acetone results

[CDW6212R]

The Explorer radiators are very efficient, the 95-01's are even more so. I can see temps in the low 160's in my 98 with 302, on the highway. I have a 180 thermostat in that, so for such an efficient cooling system, I believe a 180 is too cold. I have a 195 in my 99 SOHC truck, still yet to be driven. Good luck,

 

[Josh]

I have a 195 in mine. I think I'm gonna add a water temp gauge to see what the real temp is. I was using a gauge until it slipped in the fill hole. I guess if you look close enought the radiator will tell what the temp is

 

[CDW6212R]

I really appreciate the onboard PCM data that OBDII systems have. Many devices can pull up the exact numbers. I have the $100 Scangauge device, which plugs into the OBDII port(95+ models). I would be untrusting of a factory gauge indicating low temperatures. I do not trust the factory gauges in general, they often times have just a couple of steps, like the 95-01 oil pressure.

That gauge only indicates proper versus no pressure. Any change in apparent reading is just a system voltage fluctuation, not an oil pressure change. That gauge could literally be just a dummy light like older vehicles, it only shows pressure or no pressure. Regards,

 

[exgmman]

My results seemed to be lacking. I tried for several tanks with no real results. I tried running 3oz to 10 just to see if I needed more but no joy. One thing I have been trying to figure out is why my truck is running so cool. It barely passes the N in normal. Maybe my truck was staying in open loop. I guess I will try again.

Those factory guages aren't accurate. You need to find out how hot the truck is running.....

 

[Nasty350LT1]

What did you use to pour the Acetone in what type of (2) oz. bottle to store it where in the car for your next fill up ? I was thinking of going to a "Science Store" and getting a 2 oz. jar with a lid and a funnel of sorts to properly measure out the prescribed 2 ounces per 10 gallon mixture...

 

[Nasty350LT1]

Those factory guages aren't accurate. You need to find out how hot the truck is running.....

I just picked up a "ScanGauge" and it has a wealth of information about my Explorer...


Nifty little toy.

 

[techieman33]

If you go to an auto parts store or even walmart you should be able to find a big plastic syringe that will hold around 4oz or so. then I had a small container of acetone that I would draw it out of, that way I could get an accruate amount in depending on how much gas I was putting in the tank.

 

[Josh]

Those factory guages aren't accurate. You need to find out how hot the truck is running.....

Yea I know but my truck used to run in the middle but now it does not seem to get warm unless the sender is bad. I believe the PCM would go closed at 170 degrees. I have been thinging about an aftermarket gauge, but I don't want to run the capilary line into the truck. Might look for a electronic sender type.

 

[Josh]

I just used a plastic Coke bottle and a measuring glass. I poured in 2 ounces then drew a line. 2 more and another line and so on. Worked fine.

 

[Nasty350LT1]

OK, so I go to fill my tank. I'm only adding 10 gallons to fill it up. This my first attempt at the "Acetone Treatment" I add 4 ounces. Next week, I fill up with 10 gallons of gas,
do I add another 2 ounces, or wait until I have used the full tank treated with 4 ounces that I started with...? And the following week fill up and add 4 ounces ?

 

[aldive]

You want the mixture based on the total amount of gas in the tank, not just what you add.

 

[techieman33]

I don't think you quite understood him Al, he's going to put in 4 oz. this time to cover all 20 gallons. And then if he put's in 10 gallons next week he only needs to add 2 more oz. for the 10 gallons he just added.

 

[aldive]

Its best to run the tank out and start each "batch" with a full tank.

 

[Nasty350LT1]

Thanks, that cleared everything up. I just picked up a "Turkey Baster" to measure it out. Then I'll put it in an old DRY Gas bottle...So, my next tank, I'll give it a try.

 

[PedroDaGr8]

Acetone drastically reduces the surface tension. Most fuel molecules are sluggish with respect to their natural frequency. Acetone has an inherent molecular vibration that "stirs up" the fuel molecules, to break the surface tension. This results in a more complete vaporization with other factors remaining the same. More complete vaporization means less wasted fuel, hence the increased gas mileage from the increased thermal efficiency.

I'm not saying yay or nay on this but I am a chemist (used to work on OLED materials and now work on deactivation of nerve "gases" and pesticides) and this particular paragraph is complete horseshit. While acetone MAY break up the surface tension, it DOES NOT occur in the way that they describe. First off all molecules vibrate due to heat, the bonds stretch and contract. This has NO affect on the surrounding molecules, the only change comes with increasing or decreasing temperature. The vibrations do not STIRUP anything, also molecules don't have a NATURAL frequency. UGH sorry to sound like I am ranting but as a chemist I can't stand people who pass off fake science, and make the public who read it appear foolish when they quote it. If anyone wants more proof I can dig it up.
Also, in the one of the article cited that talks about the difference between methyl ethyl ketone(MEK) and acetone(AC), it incorrectly says that acetone has less oxygen per molecule than MEK. The structure of MEK is CH3CH2C=OCH3, AC on the other hand is CH3C=OCH3, so per molecule they have the same number of atoms of oxygen but if you includecombustion into the equation, then you need more oxygen to combust MEK than you do AC. 3 atoms more to be exact.
There seems to be too much disinformation surrounding this topic. Eventually, I would like to perform a statistical analysis on all of this data to prove that there are infact increase in fuel economy, my g.f (an analytical biochemist) has a wide variety of programs that all I would have to do is enter in the data for the control (no AC) and the experimental and see if there is any coorelation, or if it actually falls within the COF limits which would statistically show a true improvement or not.

 

[Josh]

So Pedro, mix us up a brew I need some gas milage pronto!

All jokes aside, if you are who you say you are, then thanks for the input and looking forward to more.

 

[PedroDaGr8]

I sure will keep y'all posted. Also, I am who I say I am, to be exact I am a graduate student who works under Dr. David Atwood at the University of Kentucky. One thing that I can add that leads support to the cleans stuff side of acetone, is that I use acetone ALL the time as an excelent solvent for cleaning glassware. We joke that it is almost the universal solvent for glassware stuff, it disolves a large range of things, if it doesn't come off with water, acetone, or hexanes we throw it in a base bath and just let that eat it off. Just my 2cents.

 

[Iggy flywheel]

Pedro for a minute there thought acetone could split atoms. After that fuzzy science quote one has to laugh........

 

[PedroDaGr8]

hahaha fuzzy is putting it lightly. It is quite funny though. Next headline Acetone initiates fusion in engine pistons ;-)

 

[snocross1985]

Pedro, if you come up up with your own findings you should have them in its own thread then link it here. Can't wait to see what you come up with!