Getting exhaust... V Flow vs Flowmaster vs Magnaflow vs ?

[Jason_25]

Saleen, don't be upset because he shares a different opinion than you. Ford designed the stock exhaust very well. Explorers hardly pollute, they are extremely quiet, and vibration due to the exhaust is minimal. This is actually important to some people. A catback will only yield a performance increase at or near full throttle. If you don't spend alot of time up there, and don't want your truck sounding like a sports car, what's the point? After nearly 8 years, my stock exhaust is very quiet and has very little rust on it. I also don't really see the point in getting an aftermarket one.

 

[SaleenEXP]

Originally posted by Jason_25
Saleen, don't be upset because he shares a different opinion than you. Ford designed the stock exhaust very well. Explorers hardly pollute, they are extremely quiet, and vibration due to the exhaust is minimal. This is actually important to some people. A catback will only yield a performance increase at or near full throttle. If you don't spend alot of time up there, and don't want your truck sounding like a sports car, what's the point? After nearly 8 years, my stock exhaust is very quiet and has very little rust on it. I also don't really see the point in getting an aftermarket one.

except he's talking about performance, like dropping 1/2 off 0-60 for $200. didn't mean for it to come off like a flame or anything, the stock exhaust is very restrictive as is basically all stock vehicle exhaust. Of course it's not going to pollute, jusyt look at how many cats we have on the 5.0 Ex/Mounty lol

but he came off saying the stock is better, which it's not. A custom set-up will flow better, sound better, provide better mileage depending on your lead foot, stock holds back performance, custom doesn't.

 

[SaleenEXP]

also, it will help down low. I've towed our 27ft Fountain before when stock, pretty sluggish. But with a cold air intake, and my flowmaster cat-back with a 2.5" piping, it made a very noticeable difference pulling away from a stop, or boat ramp and when trying to pass or get up to speed. The whole backpressure thing is BS, you don't lose low end torque, somebody explained the whole principal of how it works a few weeks ago.

 

[SaleenEXP]

if your not into mods, then I guess stock is fine but your not going to get the benefits. There are plenty of exhaust that aren't loud at all, barely noticeable like Gibson.

even my grandfather has mods on their Town Car, dual Magnaflow setup with some other stuff, and they just sold their Jaguar XKR modded by Arden. If you don't know who Arden is, they make incredible Jaguars. This car sounded sick down low and screamed at full throttle and was sick fast.

so don't tell me it's an age thing Funny, they went to look at the AMG SL-55's but my grandmother didn't care for it and my grandfather thought it was too quiet, guess what he would have done if they bought it lol

don't really no why anyone wouldn't want the performance benefit, sound, mpg, looks, weight savings ect. A Borla or Corsa exhaust for example on a C5 Corvette cost over $1000 (forget $200) and saves 40lbs of weight and more than 20lbs off a Z06's "Titanium" exhuast.

 

[xfreak]

I diddnt mean to start so much **** off one question,lol but its cool, saleen, I'm with you on your point, and any one else with different opinon is stupid! I mean what do you guys think, that this is america or something! Anyway, I feel that stock isnt what I'm looking for so I'm gonna change, if stock is someone else cup of beer,that cool, Ill just sound a little diffrent than them.

 

[hrbib21]

I'm thinking of going with Flowmaster myself. Sounds like the Delta 50 series is what I'm looking for: throaty outside and quieter inside. I have a 99 X Limited 5.0 so I KNOW I need to do something with the exhaust. Just got a MAC products intake on Ebay for 119.00 + 12.00 s/h. Not too bad, I think. Search on Ebay and you'll find the guy easily.

Anyhoo, knowing what I am looking for in an exhaust, is the 50 series what I should get?

 

[SaleenEXP]

the 50 delta would probably be perfect for you, quieter inside but definitley noticeable outside. I'm more into mean and aggressive, especially on a 5.0 so if it were me I'd do a true dual with two 40 series Flowmasters and 2.5 or 3" piping, you'd have very little resonance due to using two mufflers and it would sound mean as **** outside.

but the 50 delta you'd like also, go for a dual in/dual out one

 

[Foo]

Hey just wodnering if anyone has a sound clip of the borla cat-back exhuast system on a v6 for 95's - 96's? They are around $425, and I even checked out borla's site and they didn't have a sound clip

 

[99exEB1]

Re: Re: Leave well enough alone!

Originally posted by SaleenEXP
you have a very simple mind/view....do you know anything about vehicles? Cause what you just said just went against everything.....Stock exhaust are sh!tty cause they have to meet Government regulations, is that too hard for you to comprehend, it's that simple.
and no Ford does not engineer the best exhaust for the truck cause they they have to cut cost, again it's that simple.

Saleen is right, stockers use a press bent system, I think, where after markets use mendrell(sp) bent systems that don't clamp down where the pipe makes a bend.

 

[RTStork]

Damn, Saleen, Sorry you had to defend this by yourself. I didn't think these "stocker" guys would get their panties in a wad so easily. I'm with ya all the way. That's the whole point I was trying to make in my first reply to that nimrod. We don't say that stock Explorers suck, so we ain't gonna listen to negative remarks about modding our Explorers. If you like the stock quiet exhaust, that's fine. We like ours to look and sound good. I don't agree with the guys that put a big lift and huge tires on a 2 wheel drive Explorer, but I don't say anything negative because its all about customizing your ride the way you like to.

 

[SaleenEXP]

heh, Dead Link Removedreinforcements have arrived lol. Thanks RTstork and 99exEB1. I had to fight that war myself, heh, got a little crazy here.

If somebodies into using like stock parts such as the exhaust, it just strikes me as odd that somebody wouldn't want the benefits of a custom cat-back. I mean you get more power, mpg, looks, sound ect ect., now if you can't afford it then thats different.

And again, don't tell me it's an age thing with the sound or whatever, hehe, cause my granfather had Arden mod their Jag XKR and it screamed like a mother at full throttle and a had a mean burble at idle, and they have dual Maganflows on their Town Car, used to have dual Flowmaster 40's but the mean azz sound didn't fit the Town Cars image if you know what I mean.

emon - check this out, I remember RTstork saying he could only chirp his tires off the line when stock, but after adding a "swiss-cheese" air box and a true dual exhaust, he could leave something like 10 or 15ft of rubber on the road, right RTstork? I was a memeber last year, but had to re-register in August cause my computer went pshycho, and I remember you talking about that in one of your post a long time ago. You used dual 40's with 2.5" piping right? You know what, I just noticed you haven't been on this board in a while, were you away or something?

 

[RTStork]

Yep, I am using the 40 series Flowmaster and 2 1/2" piping. That and the cut airbox did enable me to now leave twin 10 ft blackstrips. I got a motorcycle back in June, and I have spent all of my free time riding it. Its hard to find time for my numerous hobbies. I was showing and racing our Mustang, then put that to the side to start playin around with the Explorer, then I got the motorcycle...... So, I may not be around as much, but its good to be back!

 

[emon]

SaleemEXP and RTStork are TOO Friendly!?!

Hey SaleenEXP tell your boyfriend RTStork that he missed all the fun we had last night.

 

[RTStork]

Re: SaleemEXP and RTStork are TOO Friendly!?!

Originally posted by emon
Hey SaleenEXP tell your boyfriend RTStork that he missed all the fun we had last night.

Damnit! I'm always late.

 

[SaleenEXP]

Re: SaleemEXP and RTStork are TOO Friendly!?!

Originally posted by emon
Hey SaleenEXP tell your boyfriend RTStork that he missed all the fun we had last night.

hmmm.........

 

[emon]

To set the record straight...

Just so you know SaleemEXP and RTStork, I do know what I'm talking about. I own an '84 Camaro that's modified to the gills. it has no stock component in it except the glass windows! Here are some of the major modifications:
- Holley 650 Carb (Remember those)
- Elderbrock intake manifold
- Elderbrock headers
- True dual 2.5" exhaust (Hey SaleenEXP, you'll love this one- it has not CATALYCTIC!)
- Chevy Orange color engine accented by chrome accs.
- Dual battery (one for 1,000 watt/16 speaker system)
- Mustang hood scoop (molded in and fucntional!)
- Suspension dropped by 2"
- largest possible tire without sticking out on the side.
- Shaved Antenna, side markers, emblems,...
- Corvette tail lights under a GTS black out kit.

...I have much more but I do not want to bore you some more. My point is, eventhough, it's fun seeing the result when it's done, at the end you are not really happy at the end result. You always want more. I don't know about you but I do not have unlimited cash flow.

I had sold the Camaro about 4 years ago when I realized I no longer need it when I got my Xplorer. The dependability of a stock vehicle outweights the modification and the headache that comes with it when it eventually breaks down.

It is nice to know before you head out on a long trip that you're vehicle won't breakdown because the clamp on the exhaust wasn't tight enough or the new modification you did did not work out the way you thought it would.

Guys, I know what I'm talking about. Some modifications are just not worth it.

 

[RTStork]

Can't you leave this **** alone? Hell, if you like running stock exhaust, thats fine, but some of us like the sound of aftermarket exhausts, so it IS worth it to us. If we get a slight performance increase also, then that's just an added bonus.

 

[emon]

Like I said... leave well enough alone...

 

[yob_yeknom]

Re: To set the record straight...

Originally posted by emon
Just so you know SaleemEXP and RTStork, I do know what I'm talking about.

Sorry bud, you have no idea what you are talking about. The stock exhaust on any Explorer is not stainless steel. Ford engineers do not get paid to design the best exhaust, they get paid to design the cheapest exhaust that will do the job. DUH!

 

[DeagleDave]

i'm gonna drop in on this one....an aftermarket exhaust does yield better mpg and better power for towing. i just put almost 1300lbs of marble tile in my cargo area and drove it home 25 or so miles. the explorer handled it very well (i have the OHV V6) and even did well getting it up my 45 degree incline driveway.

also i'm curious as to why you would spend all that time and money on an '84 Camaro, Emon?