HD Radio?

[RocketFoot]

Anybody make the leap to HD Radio in your X yet? I am thinking about getting a Directed Electronics DMHD1000 add on tuner and mount the remote commander under the heater controls in my 03 X...I've been looking for something to mount on that flat, boring panel for a while...this may just be it!

http://www.hdradio.com:80/find_an_hd_digital_radio_station.php

 

[Burns]

I have heard a lot about it but am not willing to try it till there are some reviews out.

Is it a suscription(sp) service?

Oh and there is not enough stations in my area

 

[tmh6202]

Anybody make the leap to HD Radio in your X yet? I am thinking about getting a Directed Electronics DMHD1000 add on tuner and mount the remote commander under the heater controls in my 03 X...I've been looking for something to mount on that flat, boring panel for a while...this may just be it!

http://www.hdradio.com:80/find_an_hd_digital_radio_station.php

OK, I cannot hold my piece on this any longer. Some of you who live in Europe, not sure about down under, may be able to support what I am going to say here.

I lived in Germany from 83 to 89 and had several vehicles and various types of stereo equipment. HD radio is a marketing gimmick here the Good ole US of A. All of the adds that tell you there are "high definition" stations between your already used stations on the dial (or display) are really pulling your leg, and at your wallet.

Europe uses and has used the even numbered frequencies for decades and decades. In the United States we use the odd numbered frequencies, and have for decades. Analaog radio waves travel through the air in the same manner, especially between 88 fm and 108 fm, regardless of it being an odd or even number.

I had an old Apline head unit that I purchased in Germany that recieved "HD" signals until it was stolen out of my BII a while back.

The marketing machine is doing a really good job of selling High Def radios though. Now, when you are referring to Sirrius or the other Satellite radio system(s), it is a different story. Those recievers are getting a digital signal which is then converted to analog so it can be piped into your radio through the antenna feed. The difference here is that the signal fed is cleaner because it is digital. The signal on the even banded "HD" radios has less interference from other broadcasts so it is margianlly cleaner. The problem is, once there are as manny "HD" stations as analog stations the same old problem will exist, frequencies will interfere with each other.

Just my thoughts on throwing away your hard earned dollars...

 

[Anime]

Sounds like the best way to get "HD" radio then is to install a second radio of the European variety, or better yet, score one that can switch between US and European tuning frequences.

Personally I don't understand any of this pay-for-it nonsense, it's almost a bigger ripoff than cable or satellite tv. They rarely play anything good, anyway. I'll stick with CDs and MP3's.

 

[gsx220]

i have a JVC head unit with the HD built in and i love it sounds so much better then normal radio and you get multi channels on each i have settings on my that say euro and us

 

[SoBeLover]

i have a JVC head unit with the HD built in and i love it sounds so much better then normal radio and you get multi channels on each i have settings on my that say euro and us

Which one do you have?

This one?

Or this one?

I wanted the first one but they are hard to find as they are no longer produced. I thought about the second one when I went looking for a new headunit to replace the 4 year old one in my Explorer, and since the second was only available online I saw this one and fell in love with it.

It doesn't have HD but since I mostly listen to the radio in my house and not in my truck, I figured I didn't need it

Funny thing....the day I was to have the new headunit installed, my old one's CD feature just stopped functioning....weird, huh?

 

[RocketFoot]

OK, I cannot hold my piece on this any longer. Some of you who live in Europe, not sure about down under, may be able to support what I am going to say here.

I lived in Germany from 83 to 89 and had several vehicles and various types of stereo equipment. HD radio is a marketing gimmick here the Good ole US of A. All of the adds that tell you there are "high definition" stations between your already used stations on the dial (or display) are really pulling your leg, and at your wallet.

Europe uses and has used the even numbered frequencies for decades and decades. In the United States we use the odd numbered frequencies, and have for decades. Analog radio waves travel through the air in the same manner, especially between 88 fm and 108 fm, regardless of it being an odd or even number.

I had an old Apline head unit that I purchased in Germany that received "HD" signals until it was stolen out of my BII a while back.

The marketing machine is doing a really good job of selling High Def radios though. Now, when you are referring to Sirrius or the other Satellite radio system(s), it is a different story. Those receivers are getting a digital signal which is then converted to analog so it can be piped into your radio through the antenna feed. The difference here is that the signal fed is cleaner because it is digital. The signal on the even banded "HD" radios has less interference from other broadcasts so it is margianlly cleaner. The problem is, once there are as manny "HD" stations as analog stations the same old problem will exist, frequencies will interfere with each other.

Just my thoughts on throwing away your hard earned dollars...

From what I understand, HD radio is completely free (other than your equipment costs) You are able to tune in channels that you cant hear on your standard head unit. But it is like OTA HD TV...you either get it or you don't...there is no static like regular terrestrial radio. I have almost 20 channels broadcasting multiple frequencies in my area and I can get the above unit for $129 dealer cost, so I may just give it a try. I have Sirius Satellite in my other car and I love it, but I ain't paying for a second account! LOL

 

[briwayjones]

OK, I cannot hold my piece on this any longer. Some of you who live in Europe, not sure about down under, may be able to support what I am going to say here.

I lived in Germany from 83 to 89 and had several vehicles and various types of stereo equipment. HD radio is a marketing gimmick here the Good ole US of A. All of the adds that tell you there are "high definition" stations between your already used stations on the dial (or display) are really pulling your leg, and at your wallet.

Europe uses and has used the even numbered frequencies for decades and decades. In the United States we use the odd numbered frequencies, and have for decades. Analaog radio waves travel through the air in the same manner, especially between 88 fm and 108 fm, regardless of it being an odd or even number.

I had an old Apline head unit that I purchased in Germany that recieved "HD" signals until it was stolen out of my BII a while back.

The marketing machine is doing a really good job of selling High Def radios though. Now, when you are referring to Sirrius or the other Satellite radio system(s), it is a different story. Those recievers are getting a digital signal which is then converted to analog so it can be piped into your radio through the antenna feed. The difference here is that the signal fed is cleaner because it is digital. The signal on the even banded "HD" radios has less interference from other broadcasts so it is margianlly cleaner. The problem is, once there are as manny "HD" stations as analog stations the same old problem will exist, frequencies will interfere with each other.

Just my thoughts on throwing away your hard earned dollars...

This is not at all how HD radio works. It doesn't use the even stations and actually by FCC law can't use the even stations. It still uses the same station frequencies but it multicasts and multiplexes. It carries several different signals on one frequency similar to how you can have DSL work on the same phone line as the phone without it interfering. Also despite the fact that its an analog signal by which the station is transfered it can transmit digital data. Conventional radio works by sending uncompressed analog sound waves to your radio. HD radio (which originally stood for Hybrid Radio but has come to mean High Definition radio). works by sending digital data using analog signals. You can send digital data via a non digital transmission. Digital data is nothing more than binary data or computer data you could say, 0 and 1s. Over air waves instead of directly sending uncompressed sound data you send 0 and 1s which then is received by the HD radio and is reconstructed and interupted into sound data. The same way your computer plays MP3s. MP3 files don't contain sound like a .wav file it is merely 0 and 1s that the computer translates into sound. Since the HD radio is receiving actual data and not sound it can buffer the data it receives like a Satellite Radio. So if you momentarily loose a signal or get something that interferes with it, it doesn't cut out or produce static like regular radio because the transmission has been buffered.

It has advertising like regular radio so it's free other than equipment costs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio

 

[tmh6202]

This is not at all how HD radio works. It doesn't use the even stations and actually by FCC law can't use the even stations. It still uses the same station frequencies but it multicasts and multiplexes. It carries several different signals on one frequency similar to how you can have DSL work on the same phone line as the phone without it interfering. Also despite the fact that its an analog signal by which the station is transfered it can transmit digital data. Conventional radio works by sending uncompressed analog sound waves to your radio. HD radio (which originally stood for Hybrid Radio but has come to mean High Definition radio). works by sending digital data using analog signals. You can send digital data via a non digital transmission. Digital data is nothing more than binary data or computer data you could say, 0 and 1s. Over air waves instead of directly sending uncompressed sound data you send 0 and 1s which then is received by the HD radio and is reconstructed and interupted into sound data. The same way your computer plays MP3s. MP3 files don't contain sound like a .wav file it is merely 0 and 1s that the computer translates into sound. Since the HD radio is receiving actual data and not sound it can buffer the data it receives like a Satellite Radio. So if you momentarily loose a signal or get something that interferes with it, it doesn't cut out or produce static like regular radio because the transmission has been buffered.

It has advertising like regular radio so it's free other than equipment costs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio

Nice explanation, I stand corrected.