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how do i get the centerbolt out?

JoshC

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I did a search but couldn't find anything. I need to get these 2 out so i can take my axle to the welder tomorrow to get my new perches welded on for my SOA, i'm also shortening my shakles so it will keep my current height, but less drag etc etc etc. Anyways, i turned them on the bottom of course and it is just spining. These do have to come out before i can take the axle off the springs right? Do i need to cut them off with the torch? Thanks!

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what center bolt on what part?
 












Josh,
If youre good with a torch thats fine, I prefer a sawsall. Sloppy torch work could change the temper of the springs, but doubt you could do too much damage.
Put a clamp or clamp on the leafs and cut the bolt off and then release the pressure on the spring pack.

Have fun

I was sorry to read about your house deal - youll find another, it WILL be better.
 






ooooohhhhh the leaf spring bolt! Now I get it. Why would that need to come out for a spring over? And how are you keeping the sime height with the spring over by cutting the shackles, won't you still gain a couple inches?

I had to cut mine.
 












right but he said he will keep the same height and I don't see how that is possible. He will be relocating the axel down about 4 - 5 inches at least and even if he shortens the shackle it will still be a couple inches higher? I must be missing something here.
 






Steve--thanks for the sympathy!! We are actually looking at another tomorrow, i'll reply to that thread later to let everyone know, thanks again! I'm pretty decent with a torch so i guess i can cut it off, i hope i can find a couple more center bolts tomorrow!

taxx--let me try to explain this. I measured my leaf spring pack , it is just under 2.25", i haven't taken the pac off the axle yet because of the center bolt, but i'll then measure the axle with the bottom perch to see how tall it is, i'm guess it is about 3-4", anyways, my shakles are monster, i can cut them down to size once i get the 2 measurements put together, and if i need to, i'll take off my ad-a-leaf to give me some more room. See what i'm doing here? If not let me know and i'll try it another way!!

tarheel--thanks for jumping in while i was away!

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I used my impact wrench on one while holding the bolt with vice grips. The other required cutting it off with a die-grinder. I found two replacement bolts at Checkers.
 






OK. I must have been a little tired. Makes sense now!
 






Alright, get your brains fired up and ready to think.

I did this but it didn't work right. I measure the thickness of my springs, just a shade under 2.25". Measured the thickness of my axle with the old perch, 3.5" i think, together that makes 5.75". Okay, so i lugged the axle out from under the truck, and man that sucker is heavy! Anyways, took it to the machine shop, showed the welder what i wanted done with the new perches and then i showed him the shackles and told him i wanted 5.75" cut off and new holes drilled. No problem so far right? Well he was good enought to squeeze me in today cause he was busy, so i wasn't complaining, but he did an excellent job welding and cutting. Got home put the shackles, little oh things, on the truck, hooked up my springs, waited for my buddy to get there to help get the axle out of my truck and on the ground. He gets there and we start hooking things up and i start to notice that something isn't right. Well, i'm not sure how it happened but i came up with this:

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Now tell me something isn't right there???? I don't know how it happened, but if i were to have left the shackles untouch then i swear on everything i have it would have given me over 10" lift, and i'm not kidding. Come to find out the shackles are cut at 5", not 5.75". I measure from the bottom of the perch on the bottom to the top of the top leaf spring after the conversion and it came up to be 7". My shackles can't get any shorter because when i put the axle on they are hitting the frame, with out the axle they were fine, here look:

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If i were to put my 31" tire on the truck right now in the drive way i could drive away and i would have over a foot of clearance. This has been the worst week of my life so far, everything that could go wrong is going wrong. My grandpa is dying, i worked on my fiancee's legacy wagon (which i will never do again) all freaking week cross threading every freaking bolt, and now this didn't work out.

Someone tell me what i did wrong. The new perches are a little higher then old ones, but not enought to make up that many inches. I am really close to going to a junk yard and picking up an 8.8 off of a ranger and also getting the leaf spring brackets off the frame because in order for the ranger to set up like it does, the brackets are on the out side of the frame and back one, is actually above the bottom of the frame if i remember right. Someone help, i'm going to have to convert this thing back over in the morning which isn't a big deal, just a pain in the butt. I only spent about $60 on everything with labor so it's not like it killed but this should have worked and i want to know where i messed up. Thanks!

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Pictures aren't showing. Sorry you aren't having a good time.
 






right click the red x, copy that into your address bar of you browser and then you should be able to see the picture there and when you come back to this thread, not sure why it does that but it does.

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Josh,

Cutting the shackles an inch will not lower your axle an inch. I think its more like 1/2" lift for each inch of shackle length. So taking off an amount equal to the axle/spring combo wont do it, you need to take off twice that amount from the shackels.

Maybe removing the helper leaves would lower it some.
 






Steve--yeah that's what jeff was telling me in my other thread in this forum, i didn't realize that before but i do now! Thanks though.

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