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marcus0311

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1992 Explorer 4x4
Ok. I've been wanting to install a lift kit and bigger tires of course, but the boss(wife)hehe says not right off yet. Ok. Well, I drive from North SaltLake to Tooele Army Depot 45 miles twice a day. I've decided to put some money into affordable horsepower/ gas economy. I've been looking at the G-Force chip, and E3 sparkplugs. Any experience with these products, and any suggestions for other products? I have a 4.0 V6, it's been recently re-built and runs/idles good. Gas mileage is ok,but I'm looking(allowed)hehe to put some money into it just not yet the amount needed to put a lift kit and 33's on it. I apprecieate any information y'all can help with. Thanx:)
 



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G-force chip? Snakeoil. Avoid.

E3 plugs are no better than any other plugs. Stick with Motorcraft. I have yet to hear of ANY plug for any Explorer engine that improves performance. Don't fall for the hype.

Best mileage mod is the "egg" mod. Pretend that there is an egg under your accelerator pedal at all times and you will notice a big difference.

Lots of little things you can do like synth fluids and increase tire pressures. I've tried them all. Driving style is the only thing that makes a real difference and unfortunately, I like to stomp on it.
 






e-3s are worse than other chips. They have that darn funky ground electrode that shrouds the spark. They suck as bad as any other multiple electrode plug, like bosch +4s.... Avoid them. If you want to spend money on plugs, get something like autolite iridium plugs. They last forever.

The G-force chip is basically just a resistor that goes on your IAT. This makes your truck think it is getting cooler air in, so it dumps more fuel in. The best part of it all, that only lasts for a little while until your ECU leans it back out from the O2 readings. Then you throw a CEL. If you really want one, I will sell you one for 90 cents plus shipping next time I go to radio shack. (and still be making quite a profit) Seriously, don't do it. If you ask me to send you the resistor, I will send you a strongly worded letter instructing you to stop hating your truck and show it some love instead. If you pay someone $70 for that resistor..... well we will all point and laugh. This will do more for your truck than that resistor ever will.

You can swap out to an electric fan... search this site for hhr fan. Full exhaust including headers, high flow cat and mandrel bent pipe into a good flowing muffler will be good for a few horsepower and a mile or two per gallon if you drive softly.

If you want to increase mileage, block off the vacuum lines that are leading into your air box, then pull out the parts of your intake assembly that are running below your intake box. From there, run a tube down from the air box to collect air near your exhaust manifold. Hot air will give you slightly better fuel mileage.

While you are at it, optimize your throttle body. To do that, you take off your throttle body, pull the screws out of the throttle plate, cut off the part of the shaft that goes over the throttle plate and grind the bottom half slightly smaller. Use a countersinking bit to drill countersink holes into your throttle plate, then go to the hardware store and buy countersunk screws the same thread as the ones that used to be in your throttle plate. Install those screws into your throttle plate, then grind off the portion of the screw that is protruding beyond the bottom of the shaft.

I use synthetic 75w90 in my differentials, and full synthetic transmission fluid in my gearbox and transmission, along with an external cooler I took off a Windstar we were chopping up (SCORE!). A good set of highway tires or touring tires helps a lot with mileage over all terrain tires, but if you want something with a little grip, at least try and find a low rolling resistance tire.

Supposedly a screaming demon coil gives you more spark energy, which would mean you can gap your plugs wider. A wider gap means a more efficient burn.

Someone will come flying in here soon like a retarded superman telling you about the KKM intake, and how it is a marvelous product that changed their life, cured cancer, and made it so little billy could walk again. It is a cone air filter that is attached to an adapter plate for your MAF. It doesn't really make much difference except at high rpms (and even then it is barely noticeable). I bought one and installed it because I was going to test it since everyone wanted to argue with me that this intake is some super miraculous product that works better than any intake ever made by anyone ever..... but yeah, it is just like any other intake kit on any other car. I haven't made enough long trips yet to provide you with a reliable average for fuel economy increase, but so far, it looks like it is netting me almost 1/2 mile per gallon. It should pay for itself in about 6 years at that rate. Unfortunately the weather has been fluctuating, so I can't give you reliable information yet, but I doubt it will be very far off my initial measurements.

You can index your plugs if you have a little free time. The washers to do so aren't real expensive. It doesn't net hardly anything, except up top.... but doing it is a good stress reliever in my opinion.

Nothing that I stated above is going to make a big difference in and of itself. You might feel a full exhaust mod, and you might feel a difference with the electric fan, especially if your fan clutch is getting old and stickier. These engines aren't real powerful to begin with, and these trucks are heavy, so you won't really make much more power anyways with simple bolt-ons, and the little you do make, won't make much of a difference. You will probably see around 3-4 mpg if you do everything I listed above, so don't expect to be making your money back on your mods at the pump any time soon.

A lift kit and bigger tires.... well no two ways about it. It will tank your mileage and the power you feel.
 






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Someone will come flying in here soon like a retarded superman telling you about the KKM intake, and how it is a marvelous product that changed their life, cured cancer, and made it so little billy could walk again.

HA HA HA!!

We made an intake out of PCV pipe and a cheap cone filter for my cousin's Ranger. It probably worked about as well.
 






HA HA HA!!

We made an intake out of PCV pipe and a cheap cone filter for my cousin's Ranger. It probably worked about as well.

AGREED. Commercial intake "kits" won't work any better than making your own. Just don't skimp on the filter, for obvious reasons.
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HAHAHA Blinker fluid....I forgot about that joke. I don't want to go way high, or too big with my tires. Just high enough that I can put fatter/taller tires on say 15x7.5 rims. I was told by a friend that the g-force chip isn't worth the money. He said we could put an Eddelbrock performer cam and intake package without sacraficing too much gas mileage,and gain fair amount of horse power. Then make up some of the mileage the cam, and intake take away by doing the little tricks like what you mentioned. He said the chip mods work better on engines that are more suitable for that kind of tech stuff. As far as a lift, I don't like the size of the stock tires. I want to keep the same size rim, but go with a little taller/wider tire. Any ideas?
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HAHAHA Blinker fluid....I forgot about that joke.

Joke, you say????

Behold, the mythical blinker fluid (ok, I guess it's more of a headlight fluid, but if the turn signals are integrated in the housing, then it makes it "blinker" fluid too. :D ) :

http://www.ledjournal.com/images/White Papers/Liquid Cooling.pdf
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2010/0046245.html


You should of seen the look on their faces, at Autozone, when I asked for diesel exhaust fluid. I didn't need any, as I don't own a diesel, but I wanted to see them try to find it.
 






If the lense is full of water.. is this the mystical blinker fluid everyone is talking about?:D

Just curious Marcus, why 15x7.5s? I put 15x8s on one of mine with 31x10.50 A/Ts and have slight rub only on the right side on an aftermarket mud flap. It so slight i just left it alone.

The bigger tires fit better on the wider rims and allow you to go bigger later. They used to have 33s on them before my 92 XL got totaled
 






I went with a flat stock style K & N filter and in a 1400 mile trip gained about 2 mpg. Paid for it in that trip alone just in gas savings. Small power increase also but I do mean small around town well really have not seen any MPG improvement from it only on the HWY.

Did do a larger MAF and a Swiss cheesed air box but never really say much of a power gain and lost some MPG from it so went back to stock again and will be staying that way.
Have tried so many plugs I lost count. I will say the best ones I have used to date are Motocraft or Autolights period.
I do have an Accel coil and I do run a bit bigger gap (.50 instead of .45) so far works okay but no power or MPG info.
Tires best bang for the buck but you have to pick MPG or off road as the two do not go together at all. Lift kit or lower the thing same as the tires deal

what your trying to do is streamline a brick or hot rod one to put it simply neither way is really much good as its still a brick and the best use is still what a brick was made for as any thing other is a dressed up weak compromise.
 






Just curious Marcus, why 15x7.5s? I put 15x8s on one of mine with 31x10.50 A/Ts and have slight rub only on the right side on an aftermarket mud flap. It so slight i just left it alone.


I saw some american racing aluminum "mag" type wheels that are 15x7.5 Being locally sold here in Utah for $200 on ksl.com. They reminded me of a set I had on a 5.0 stang back in highschool. What's the fattest tire that will fit on a 15x8 rim?
 






Nice...so apparently because the installation of a KKM and changing out the stock,restrictive muffler made a big difference on my 94,I'm the retard.

I truly don't care what you do to your own truck,I only post what works for me.If you choose to discount my personal experience,so be it.I guess all those years as a GM tech and all of the high performance cars and bikes I had were figments of my fertile imagination.

Feel free to come to Amboy,MN and drive my 94 for yourself if you need proof,but spare me the insulting comments please.
 






I didn't insult you. I don't think. Let's be nice guys.
 






Sorry safn, I have a K&N filter and flowmaster cat back on my 94. I'm not saying these things don't work at all but I don't think they live up to the hype people give these products. Heck, I just liked the sound of the exhaust.

It did make a slight performance difference but it was not earth shattering like people seem to make it be. I think that was all FIND is trying to say, and the mental visual from his comment was entertaining.

The PVC pipe may actually have made the same difference as a commercial kit though, because it was a smooth, open run all the way to the throttle body, taking out the kinks and bends the factory hose had (plus the hose was taken out by an exploding fan blade). We never tested it with mileage averages or a dyno to actually prove it.
 






Marcus: Hey if you like those wheels go for it. The difference between the wheels is minimal. I really don't know what a maximum would be, but I would say a good rule of thumb would be no more than 13-14 inch wide tire on an 8 inch wheel. Maybe a max of 12-13 on a 7.5. The tire will just have more of a "donut" look on the narrower wheel. You may want to do a search on here or talk to your local tire store and see what they recommend.

The wider wheel supports the tire better. If the wheel is too narrow, a wide tire will develope a higher crown in the tread center and this can lead to premature tread wear and possible failure of the tire because it is not carrying the load evenly as it was designed. I have seen guys put 35x14.50s on the factory 7 inch wide wheels before though, so i'm not saying you can't do it. I just wouldn't run down the expressway like that.
 






Nice...so apparently because the installation of a KKM and changing out the stock,restrictive muffler made a big difference on my 94,I'm the retard.

I truly don't care what you do to your own truck,I only post what works for me.If you choose to discount my personal experience,so be it.I guess all those years as a GM tech and all of the high performance cars and bikes I had were figments of my fertile imagination.

Feel free to come to Amboy,MN and drive my 94 for yourself if you need proof,but spare me the insulting comments please.

No need, I have driven plenty of modified vehicles, I know what I am talking about. For the bazillionth time. I am not saying changing those things won't make a difference. What I am saying is that it is not the life changing experience that people often say it is on this site. The KKM intake is good for a couple horsepower at best at peak, and a few more at higher RPMs. The stock muffler isn't that restrictive, but changing it to another muffler is probably good for another pony or two. Headers, high flow cat, and a good catback might yield 10 or so.

How much extra power do you think these engines are going to make with a couple bolt-ons?:rolleyes: What is with you people and taking it so personally every time I say that an air filter isn't going to change your two ton underpowered truck into a hot-rod?

The reason I make my comments is because I want people to buy things knowing exactly what they are buying. I don't want people to buy them based on hype, or the high an owner feels after spending a bunch of money on parts. I don't want people to have unrealistic expectations either. We aren't a bunch of teenagers with Hondas, so there shouldn't be any reason why we would believe dumb things like an air filter could turn your truck into a race car. If you buy these parts hoping to save fuel, it will take 5 years or more for you to make your money back on fuel savings, even if you go with some of the higher numbers some people give for the improvement they are claiming. If you are buying these parts to add power, then people shouldn't expect a ton of power. An OHV 4.0 is a great little engine, but its brilliance is in its reliability, not in its ability to make tons of horsepower. Just look at the guys on here who have really cranked up their 4.0s. Look at how much they have done to get real results.
 
























I remember telling my mother-in-law that she needed to get a gallon of "blinker fluid" for her interphase modulator matrix icp. She didn't realize I was joking with her, and actually went to the parts store. :D I thought she knew I was joking,needless to say she got me back. :D
 



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Obviously I don't expect massive hp gains by doing some bolt on jobs. A few hp here, a few more mph there is fine. Everylittle bit helps. I do know for sure that a less restrictive exhaust, and header set up gives a little more hp/mpg cause I saw (well it was based on dyno-ing a 302) the difference in auto shop class in highschool. It wasn't a "slam u back in yer seat lot",but there is a difference. Mostly it made the rumble sound cooler, and that's doing too bad. I gotta find out what header/exhaust systems are legal here cause the SaltLake area counties have some P.I.A. emissions standards.
 






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