i did the brown wire mod...

[dasauce17]

this weekend i did it. it works great. have not burned the tires yet but i was fish-tailing it on the roads that had a layer of snow worked great. don't know anything on mpg put will let you know. thanks for all the help

 

[Cozmik]

How long did it take you to finish?

 

[dasauce17]

about 1 hour and 15 minutes.

 

[Cozmik]

Cool. Did it go smoothly? Any surprises?

 

[shadowless127]

dont do burn outs, its bad for your T-Case

 

[Riddle_Rob]

Sorry to hijack but, I also did the mod last week and it worked great for me as well. I opted to put in a led switch to see just how often the 4x4 kicks in and its QUITE often. I was honestly suprised.

Didn't know it was bad on the T-Case to do burnouts though? Some good info to know though!

 

[Cozmik]

I did the mod in my 98 because of my Aussie locker. I was interested in this thread because I've been reluctant to tear into the dash of my Eddie Bauer. Although in reality I don't need now due to no locker.

And yes, doing burnouts will cook your t-case. These trucks (any gen that has Auto 4x4 ) were not designed to have the rear tires spinning faster than the front. Do so at your own risk.

 

[shadowless127]

Sorry to hijack but, I also did the mod last week and it worked great for me as well. I opted to put in a led switch to see just how often the 4x4 kicks in and its QUITE often. I was honestly suprised.

Didn't know it was bad on the T-Case to do burnouts though? Some good info to know though!

Even with the BWM the clutches in the T-Case are still touching and smoking the rear tires will do damage as the back wheels are now spinning considerably faster then the front.

I did the mod in my 98 because of my Aussie locker. I was interested in this thread because I've been reluctant to tear into the dash of my Eddie Bauer. Although in reality I don't need now due to no locker.

With no locker I understand why you don't want to do the BWM... If I had gotten an X I wasn't going to do it either. I really want to get a 2wd V8 X and make it a mean street truck, complete with harmless burn out potential .

 

[Riddle_Rob]

Thanks for the info. Guess I'll lay off that now haha. I want to make it last a bit longer then a month haha. I'll try and wait for my ranger to be back on the road then roast them tires. BLAST!

 

[dasauce17]

yeah i did the brown wire mod with no intention to be burning tires up. just to see if my mpg would get better. if not then i might go back to 4x4auto

 

[gijoecam]

Sorry to hijack but, I also did the mod last week and it worked great for me as well. I opted to put in a led switch to see just how often the 4x4 kicks in and its QUITE often. I was honestly suprised.

Didn't know it was bad on the T-Case to do burnouts though? Some good info to know though!

I thought I explained it pretty clearly in the write-up... I guess some people don't take the time to readthe whole write-up.

First, please note that because of the design of our transfer case, our systems are NOT designed to allow unlimited wheel spin. Allowing excessive wheel spin (e.g. roasting tires for a city block or running Control-Trac/BWM-equipped vehicles on a 2 wheel drive dynomometer) forces the transfer case clutch to slip. Excessive slipping causes a tremendous amount of shearing of the transmission fluid used in our transfer cases. This can result in burning of the clutches as well as the transfer case lubricating oil and is NOT recommended. Our systems are not designed to allow tire-roasting slippage of the transfer case clutch, and doing-so can result in major mechanical damage of the system which can require replacement of costly internal components of the transfer case. Again, make this modification at your own risk

 

[Riddle_Rob]

Yea I don't tend to read warning labels.

 

[IZwack]

I thought I explained it pretty clearly in the write-up... I guess some people don't take the time to readthe whole write-up.

x2 -- you peeps need to read!!

I did the mod in my 98 because of my Aussie locker. I was interested in this thread because I've been reluctant to tear into the dash of my Eddie Bauer. Although in reality I don't need now due to no locker.

Just so there's no confusion, the BWM is independent of the Aussie and it is not necessary to do the BWM when putting in an Aussie (or any locker for that matter).

 

[gijoecam]

x2 -- you peeps need to read!!


Just so there's no confusion, the BWM is independent of the Aussie and it is not necessary to do the BWM when putting in an Aussie (or any locker for that matter).

It is necessary if you put a locker (Aussie or otherwise) in the FRONT axle though...

...right?

 

[JDraper]

It is necessary if you put a locker (Aussie or otherwise) in the FRONT axle though...

...right?

Correct, unless you have a '96 and can use the vacuum disconnect in the front axle.

 

[IZwack]

It is necessary if you put a locker (Aussie or otherwise) in the FRONT axle though...

...right?

Thoughts:

In a front differential that doesnt have a locker (its "open"), one axle shaft will spin faster and one axle shaft will spin slower when the vehicle is turning (speed of axle shaft compared to when the vehicle is going straight). The average of these two axle shafts is probably a close estimate of the front driveshaft's RPM (after you divide by the gear ratio).

Okay so lets slap on an Aussie and take that same turn -- obviously the two axle shafts are now going to try to spin at the same speed. For simplicity, lets say the locker is locked and its not "ratcheting". In this situation, I'd say that the speed of the front driveshaft is still about the same as the differential that doesnt have a locker in it.

So, if the statements above is true, then from the transfer case's perspective, there's really not that much of a difference whether or not there is an Aussie in the front axle -- which means you probably dont need to do a BWM even with a front locker.

Your guys' thoughts on this?

 

[Cozmik]

x2 -- you peeps need to read!!


Just so there's no confusion, the BWM is independent of the Aussie and it is not necessary to do the BWM when putting in an Aussie (or any locker for that matter).

It is necessary if you put a locker (Aussie or otherwise) in the FRONT axle though...

...right?

Thoughts:

In a front differential that doesnt have a locker (its "open"), one axle shaft will spin faster and one axle shaft will spin slower when the vehicle is turning (speed of axle shaft compared to when the vehicle is going straight). The average of these two axle shafts is probably a close estimate of the front driveshaft's RPM (after you divide by the gear ratio).

Okay so lets slap on an Aussie and take that same turn -- obviously the two axle shafts are now going to try to spin at the same speed. For simplicity, lets say the locker is locked and its not "ratcheting". In this situation, I'd say that the speed of the front driveshaft is still about the same as the differential that doesnt have a locker in it.

So, if the statements above is true, then from the transfer case's perspective, there's really not that much of a difference whether or not there is an Aussie in the front axle -- which means you probably dont need to do a BWM even with a front locker.

Your guys' thoughts on this?

True, you don't HAVE to do the BWM with an Aussie. I did it and others here have as well because the locker tends to screw around with the speed sensors/auto t-case while cornering on dry pavement. I did mine because after a week of driving with my rear Aussie in, I was sick of it kicking into 4x4 almost everytime I went around a corner. I looked at it as driving convenience and preventing unnecessary wear on the front end.

 

[JDraper]

Thoughts:

In a front differential that doesnt have a locker (its "open"), one axle shaft will spin faster and one axle shaft will spin slower when the vehicle is turning (speed of axle shaft compared to when the vehicle is going straight). The average of these two axle shafts is probably a close estimate of the front driveshaft's RPM (after you divide by the gear ratio).

Okay so lets slap on an Aussie and take that same turn -- obviously the two axle shafts are now going to try to spin at the same speed. For simplicity, lets say the locker is locked and its not "ratcheting". In this situation, I'd say that the speed of the front driveshaft is still about the same as the differential that doesnt have a locker in it.

So, if the statements above is true, then from the transfer case's perspective, there's really not that much of a difference whether or not there is an Aussie in the front axle -- which means you probably dont need to do a BWM even with a front locker.

Your guys' thoughts on this?

My thoughts after installing and using quite a few lunchbox lockers: If you have one installed in the front in a vehicle without a true 2 wheel drive setting, you're going to have problems steering at one point or another. The way the lunchbox lockers work is to allow the ratchet to release under light or no torque from the driveshaft, and stay locked under an increased load. If you have a 4WD auto setup, you are always sending a portion of power to the front axle. During cornering, you are applying more force to the differential, and this "could" cause the locker to stay locked which would cause the front wheels to turn at the same rate, compromising steering. Do you HAVE to do the BWM? with a front locker? No. Is it wise to do it? Yes.

 

[Treleaven]

is this supposed to affect fuel economy?

 

[IZwack]

nope