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Malone94Ltd

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Is it actually worth it? I got one about three weeks ago and have noticed no noticeable difference in mileage or torque. I'm not so worried about hp/tq, because I know it's minimal, but I had hoped that the mileage would increase at least a little bit. On average with mixed city/highway driving I'm only getting around 320-330 miles per tank.

Although I guess I'm kind of used to it having drivine a Mazda6 and 06 Mustang before this... (the fiance' left and took the rides... *grumbles). So I suppose it's not horrible.
 



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I noticed a bit, but I also have a catback system. Didn't really help my gas mileage though. If I got that much to a tank when I was stock I would have been more than happy.
 






i had one too and was thinking i would feel something noticable...probally because of all the hype...i felt nothing and it makes sense, it is just a filter, and a good one at that, but the effects wont be that noticable with just that. i now have a mac intake and have felt a difference with that...fyi, i get about 220 out of a tank...but im lifted, and have a huge dent in my tank which makes about 3-4 gallons unusable:(
 






Consider yourself VERY blessed to get that much mileage.

Most 1st gens do not get that.

Even totally stock & in top running shape my 94 only got about 300.

I doubt on a 1st gen there would be much gas improvement with just the filter. Any filter.
 






HP/TQ and mileage increaces are always a percentage of the original. Most claims I have heard are around 2% with a drop in. So if you have 100 hp when you put it in you might get 102hp. This rings true with mileage too. If you got 320-330 per tank before, 2% would only net 327-338 per tank depending on driving style.

This is also why people often refer to "mods work well together." For arguements sake and easy math lets say our trucks are 200hp stock K&N alone might net 4 hp in our vehicles (2%). Not much, nothing your going to feel on an ass dyno. Likewise an exhaust system, you might net 10-15 hp at the crank, maybe just enough to feel. Around 5-7.5%. Now add the exhaust with the K&N. You should see the full 7.5% with the K&N so 204 x 7.5% (15.3) and you have ~220hp net from both mods. The deeper you get into modding, the more the percentage gain takes effect.
 






Wow, I didn't realize first gen got such suck mileage, not only that it's the 4.0 OHV, from what I've read that should be affecting my mileage as well eh?

Well then I'll count my eggs as blessed and make me some ommelettes.
 






I only get like 200 to 220 city and 250 highway so yes consider yourself blessed.
 












My '94 Explorer with a Fram air filter:
I just did my Summer Vacation Trip with the '94 Explorer, 4 dr, 4 x 4, auto trans, 3.27 open gears, stock everything......total of 2 adults and an 9 year old on the trip from Vancouver, WA to Los Angeles, CA and back. Traveling 65-75 MPH on the freeway. Cheapest gas (reg. unleaded) was found usually at the ARCO-AM/PM ($2.99), most expensive at the MOBIL Station (Tejon Pass, CA. $3.49 per gallon).

Total Miles........2042.2 miles
Total Gas.........97.441 gals
Total Cost........$295.92
AVE MPG..........20.958 MPG

07-12-07

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On another trip I got:

4-3-07.........Combined city/hiway......17.295 MPG
4-3-07.........hiway..........................20.985 MPG
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As for your.....I get x.. miles per tank......try doing the calculations the "old way."
Jeeeez.........that’s no way to calculate miles per gallon.

I'm NOT trying to make fun of you, though it always throws me, when I hear guys talk about their MPG based on how many miles they went on a tank full of gas.

FYI, try calculating your MPG the "old fashion way."

There is going to be some variance, though I did say it was the "old fashion way." Start by filling up your gas tank, fully.......on level ground........first click off (second click off or whatever) or until you see the gas is it at a certain level in the filler neck (some stations will let you look, some won't).........sometimes you'll have to wait a little for the gas to settle in the tank........or the tank to "burrrp." You don't need to record how many gallons were needed (this time). Though you must record your odometer reading (or set the trip odometer) and remember this fill up procedure.

Any way..........now, drive it...........fill it when needed (don't have to be exact about filling it), log the number of gallons that went in.............drive it some more...............fill it when needed…………………………always logging the amount of gallons that went in............repeat the procedure several times.

After a couple of cycles: of driving, and filling, and logging the number of gallons...........this last time, you're gonna go to the same gas station and follow the same procedure that you used to fill your gas tank the first time that you started your quest for truth. Record this last odometer reading.

So, all done filling her up..............how many gallons was it this time? OK, now add up all of the gallons since you first recorded the odometer. So, how many gallons was the total?

Now, take the beginning odometer reading and minus it from the ending odometer reading………………this number is the total number of miles that you've traveled.

One more calculation left..............now, divide the number of miles by the number of gallons you used..................that number, is your MPG. Use a calculator, if you have trouble.

Now, like I said it's the "old fashion way"............and this method doesn't take into account for an odometer that is not functioning correctly.

As for computers...............well, perhaps one day................I'll have more faith in them.................and, that includes the GPS method. I've been off roading, when I was actually on a paved street.............at least that is what the GPS map said, I was doing........LOL.

Aloha, Mark


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You may just be chasing a non-problem.

I mean………the way you're doing your est., based on miles per tank fill, may be at fault.

Note: You said that currently:
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lucky if i see 300 miles on a full tank in my 2000 eddie bauer 6 banger

Then, you said
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i used to get like 325-350 on a full tank..now i dont.…

So, for some that would mean a difference of only about 1-2 gals……so, think technique…….I mean, ”How many times have you squeezed in that extra gallon in?” Or, as others have mentioned city vs. combined vs. pure highway………and, driving style………did anyone mention “winter gas?”
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So, IF a wrong assumption was made, about your technique………I apologize.

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Anyway, your method may be somewhat sound. Though, I’d like to see actual MPG numbers over a period of time.

Cause, I‘ve found that guys who report “high gas usage” based on how many miles they travel on a “tank full”……….is somewhat suspect.

Example………..sometimes (pure highway) I’ll get close to 380 miles on a “tank full” and sometimes I can barely squeak 330 miles before I get scared that I’ll run out. So, at what point did I get afraid?? When the gauge read ¼ tank or was it a “smidgen” under or over that ¼ tank mark?? See what I mean??? Not to mention..……sometimes the gas attendant (in OR you can’t fill your own) will really squeeze in that extra gas……and sometimes they don’t.

Aloha, Mark

PS......look at all the different MPG figures reported by different guys from across the country (note: they gave MPG figures).....and, the tire pressue issue......and, "mods" for the most part weren't even mentioned......there is alot to think about. Do the tune up----Good luck

Aloha, Mark
 






in town, which has to be the hilliest town in the inland north west, i get 13-15mpg. once i get on flat ground, i can get about an average of 17. in town. on the high way between where i live and seattle, wa i average 21mpg. in stock explorer with no performance mods, and only 30x9.50/15's. i can normally make it around 370 on a tank highway driving before i realy sweat the fuel issue. and about 385 till the "get gas now you idiot light comes on. all done by experimentation.

also, i usually will take the pump to the nearet 25 cents. which is normally on the 3rd click. when i do city driving i normally fill up every 2 weeks from roughly 3/8 tank. and get around 200-220.
 






Just be VERY careful not to over oil it when you clean it as that will kill your mass air sensor.

Ask me how I know
 






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