LD50 axle wrap hidden camera

[ld50]

Hey, FINALLY took at look at what goes on down under there.
I am thinking about remedying this, after the summer.
In the vid I go first to second harder than I normally would but I expect I get at least that amount of twist during wheeling operations.

My Old man Emu springs are actually getting pretty worn in so I want to re-build them with another spring leaf first and compare to this vid to what it looks like afterwards. Then I guess if it still has alot of movement I can build a trac bar/ antiwrap bar like I was going to do when I put the axle in.


Anyway, look like a lot to y`all or what?
For those that don't know me It`s SOA`d with a full width 9" axle -no spacers between spring perches and springs.

 

[Maniak]

What are you using for a camera and recording device?

I've been wanting to do that temp setup for a while to see how much wrap I'm getting now..

I also want to do a permanent setup so I can see whats by the front right tire when running the ridges at truckhaven.

~Mark

 

[ld50]

Interestingly what I am using to mount my camera is over 50 years old, I don't know if they make something like this, it is Russian, and is part of my old '53 Zorky camera kit. Could fab one up pretty easy I figure.
Connects to my beater Sony camera via the threaded stand mount cameras always have on the bottom.

 

[Gus Gorilla]

That is a very interesting video. Thank you for sharing.

 

[Maniak]

Ahh.. definitely temporary..

I'm thinking of using weather proof outdoor camera and an LCD display to "see" the front/right.. For the axle wrap camera I can do the same as you.. use my old sony cybershot.

~Mark

 

[ld50]

I know my back up camera has a video out feature on the monitor which could easily be used to capture video.
Have to hook up alot of crap (if you wanted to record)but the back up system was a cheap one from Costco.

 

[Tbars4]

...I would like to borrow a camera to see if my shocks are still doing there job...I do know me springs are still stiff...

 

[ld50]

Whats going on there, do you have shocks to try to stop wrap?

 

[IZwack]

This just hit me: maybe swap one of the shocks over to the front of the axle

 

[Tbars4]

...Yes...That is an old Rancho set up I believe...

...and as Iz mentioned, you could put the right shock in front like the Rangers do...IIRC, a few guys have tried this and to do it on a first gen X was a bit of a struggle...

 

[ld50]

Is that really effective I wonder though. I`d love to see a before and after. Seems to me you would still have the same amount of movement but it would just be dampened a little. Could be wrong though...hmmmm...

Staggered shocks more of a control for wheel hop? No? yes?

 

[ld50]

Hey I been looking around, has anyone even done a rear antiwrap bar on the first gen here?

Internet sleuthing indicates the best antiwrap device would mount from axle to viscinity of u-joint at t-case side of axle, That is a long-ass bar!
Apparently too short a bar will cause your rear end to raise do to the upward push on the bar onto your frame. Seems to me there would be a happy medium somewhere for my long wheelbase, like halfway back or something....

WHO DUNNIT?

 

[IZwack]

I've never done one but I would imagine that the front mounting point is such that the bar allows the axle's pinion angle to change naturally as the leaf spring arches - in other words, without binding up the leaf spring. I also think its length should also allow the leaf spring to arch naturally without binding.

 

[Brian1]

I have built 2 traction bars but neither has been on an Explorer. I would make the mounting point a few inches forward of the leaf spring hanger. I also like to mount them to match the driveshaft angle and just below so they take the rock hits and not the driveshaft. Here are 2 pics of the last bar I made when I did an axle swap for a friend. The bar works perfect and does not limit the flex or cause any wierd suspension characteristics.

 

[ld50]

That's an interesting design, thanks