Lexus goes down

[FrankRizzo]

Mine's a slug.
I should have a "got killed by" list
I got roasted by a Del Sol a week ago. My buddy has a '02 V-6/5-speed mustang that regualrly spanks me leaving school. Friend at work has an '02 Camry XLE w/V-6 - I gave up after 100 feet. It rained here this weekend, the only spinnin' I could get was after a power brake. I got gutter jumped by a 10 year old Dodge Diesel P/U - and lost.
I think you are all full of it, with your kill lists. Did you look over and see the other person trying? The only other vehicle I can remember beating is another Explorer (w/V-6) gettin on the freeway, and I'm not even sure they were trying.
Even worse, there is not even enough HP's to get the ass-end to come around under hard cornering, all you do is plow your way thru the corners. My Explorer needs another 150 HP just to make it interesting.
Seems like Explorers are the anti-performance vehicles. They just look good and have a decent amount of interior room.

Like I said before, I've gotten good a looking like I was not even trying. Tho, I don't really try anymore.

 

[jimbo74]

i can do some smokey brakestands with my 3.73s and 31s. in the underpowered ohv!.... but that is with no ABS connected (i yanked the fuses) if the abs is functioning, they dont do a brakestand at all... just a smell of burning clutch plates

 

[psychotic]

Yesssss I'm sure they were trying. My "killed by" list is much much much bigger than my kill list, but i tend to forget about those a lot faster.

 

[Robert]

Frank - You have to remember that you have the 160HP 4.0L OHV in a generation II body whereas most of the people here with the Kill list either have a 205-210 HP SOHC, 210-215 HP V8 or have a generation I (much lighter) body. With only 160 HP in a 4000-4400 lb. vehicle you would accumulate a pretty long killed by list.

 

[Jason_25]

It looks to me like Frank has the 5.0L V8....

 

[Robert]

Yeah, after looking at his web-site I see that he has the 5.0L. I was thinking that the XLR was 4.0L OHV only, that must have been the XL. I can't explain his lengthy killed by list then. Maybe it's DarkFox1's clone?

 

[Jason_25]

I know one thing is for certain. There is a BIG difference in acceleration times for 5 liter explorers. Some of them seem to have it, some don't.

 

[FrankRizzo]

XLR is some sh]t I made up. It's a V8 with 3.73LS.
What's the deal with the two Ford dealers in your sig being shot at?
I think you have one of the longest running unchanged sig's

 

[expo5.0]

even the RX300 can get out of its own way. In fact i think it would give any stock x a pretty good run. they are lighter and make 215 hp!


my kill list includes a saleen explorer, and a few stang gt's, plus many, many ricers, a few escalades, etc. etc. and i don't mess with lexus cars other than the IS300 since i hate them so much (and i can show them a few things depending on the driver until we get moving). either they are old women driving the dumb 300s or else they are gonna smoke me (those 400s and 430s can all fly).

 

[Majisto]

Well I am in no way bragging that my X is fast because the Lexus I beat was one of those tanky Lexi, and not the little 2-door SC430. I will admit I got beat by a Dakota 2-door regular cab We were dead even till about 45 but eventually I was staring at the center, then the back of his truck until I shut-down.

Sometimes the SOHC will take off like a rocket, and sometimes it only takes off decently fast. SOHC's strength isn't in the torque, but the fact that it can rev high and get a good amount of horsepower out. The 4.10s make up for the torque

 

[Robb]

Majisto
I believe you are still getting a hard time here is cause even a "tanky" Lexus is a tough sell:

1995 Lexus LS400
Weight: 3650 lbs.
Base Engine Type: V8 / 4 liter
Horsepower: 260 hp
Torque: 270 ft-lbs.

Even as a tank, it has a great weight-to-horsepower compared to your X. Your gearing may help you out a little, but your aerodynamics is relatively horrible. Either the Lexus, or the driver, wasn't at 100% when you beat it.

Robb

 

[Robert]

Originally posted by FrankRizzo
XLR is some sh]t I made up. It's a V8 with 3.73LS.
What's the deal with the two Ford dealers in your sig being shot at?
I think you have one of the longest running unchanged sig's

Your XLR threw me off since the XL was the base Explorer, which was only available with the 4.0L OHV and very few options. The two dealers in my signature have on several occasions resulted in numerous repeat visits to get things fixed that they broke or trying to charge me for stupid stuff like 1/2 hour labor to open my door and tell my seat tilt bracket was bent after I already told them it was bent. I just wanted to know how much it would cost to replace it. When I declined to have them replace it they wanted to charge me $36.50 for opening my door and saying "yup, it's bent". My signature hasn't been changed recently, since my Explorer hasn't been changed for the last couple of years. I'll go change it today to reflect my new shocks I was planning on changing it next Spring when I got new tires.

 

[Robert]

Originally posted by expo5.0
even the RX300 can get out of its own way. In fact i think it would give any stock x a pretty good run. they are lighter and make 215 hp!

The only stock Explorer that the RX300 would give a good run to is the OHV 4.0L. The 220 HP Lexus RX300 accelerates from 0-60 in 9.0 seconds and does the 1/4 in 17.0 seconds. The problem isn't with the HP numbers, but the RPMs that it makes its torque and HP peaks. The HP peaks at 5800 RPM and the 222 ft/lbs of torque doesn't peak until 4400 RPM. It takes it a while to get up to speed.

 

[expo5.0]

i can second the reasons for the guns shooting at those dealerships! my expereiences with the earnhardt family of dealerships make me want to shoot all of their employees and the guy who set up their computer system about 20 times.

 

[Majisto]

Originally posted by morrisey0
Majisto
I believe you are still getting a hard time here is cause even a "tanky" Lexus is a tough sell:

1995 Lexus LS400
Weight: 3650 lbs.
Base Engine Type: V8 / 4 liter
Horsepower: 260 hp
Torque: 270 ft-lbs.

Even as a tank, it has a great weight-to-horsepower compared to your X. Your gearing may help you out a little, but your aerodynamics is relatively horrible. Either the Lexus, or the driver, wasn't at 100% when you beat it.

Robb

*Nods* I know what you mean and we only went upto about 60 MPH or so before I shut down. He was gaining on me as the speed increased. I stayed ahead only because I got and the transmission held in 2nd or 3rd for a bit. I could swear that there was a V-6 Lexus made?

 

[STANN]

haha, anti-performance machines...
I have the 4.0 OHV and I easily (well, not easily, but he was about at my rear bumper) took a 5.0 mounty awhile back....maybe the guy just wasnt really pushing it because he got on a entrance ramp about 1/4 of a mile after our "acceleration comparison". I think he was on it though because he originally intended to race my buddy's integra, but i kinda joined in....anybody can clear this up? i have heard a lot you guys talking about the 5.0, and it obviously has ennormous potential, but because of that encounter, i assumed the 5.0 was slower in the Explorers...

 

[Jason_25]

Stann, beleive me. Even if that guy's 5.0 explorer was totally out of tune, he would have beat you if he was actually trying. It was probably so fast compared to yours that you felt that he was actually trying. I'm not bashing you and we have 2 explorers, one with the OHV and one with the V8. There is no comparing the two in acceleration.

 

[Robb]

I am in the same situation as Jason (having a 4.0 ohv and 5.0), and I agree. They are two completely different beasts.

Robb

 

[Alec]

Here's the skinny on the OHV V6 vs. the 5.0:

at the time, me:
96 OHV, Sport, KN FIPK, catback, chip, 3.27

friend:
stock 5.0 96 4 door, 3.73

acceleration? Dead even, with the 5.0 pulling away in the middle of second gear. This is even with a significant weight disadvantage, made up with gearing I guess.

 

[SaleenEXP]

Originally posted by Rscotts1
...Could have been the ES300 which is nothing more than a Camry!!

thats what I'm thinking, it had to be an older ES300, like somebody else said any 400 series at half throttle will literaly smoke an Explorer. And ES300 runs about 7.9-8.5 seconds depending on the year, the new ones are slower even though they now have a 5 speed auto and a little more power.

I've driven my friends GS430 and it's a true sleeper, it flys and is very fast and half-throttle will still press you to the seat. I've also driven his grandparents LS430 and it seriously hauls too, they are insane on the highway and pull hard as hell. 140mph feels like your going 30mph.

The RX300's are slow, they will barely beat an ohv V6 Explorer, they have good torque off the line then the engine just feels like it has no power. They run about 8.8-9.5 seconds if it's fwd or awd.

Originally posted by morrisey0
I am in the same situation as Jason (having a 4.0 ohv and 5.0), and I agree. They are two completely different beasts.

Robb

Same thing with us, my sister has my 94 Explorer now and my mom has a 00' 5.0 Mounty, both 2wd. No contest, the 5.0 hauls azz while the 4.0 is a dog.
I can pull 8-8.2 seconds to 60 on GTEC and the run the quarter in 16.2 at around 84-85mph on both GTEC and at the track.

My 94' could run about 10.5 stock to 60 and quarter in the 17's, with the exhaust and intake it's around 9.9-10.2 to 60.