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longevity??

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Just wondering the longevity of your 2011-2015s with V6, AWD, with repairs and maintenance [but no major engine/drivetrain replacements or overhauls]...we have a 2012 in the family with 170K miles, regular oil changes and wheel hub replacements but nothing too serious, I am wondering when our luck will run out...thanks for your responses.
 



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Here is one thing to be concerned about; Water pump failure leads to dead engine
GIven your current mileage you may be okay as there are a few other high milers that escaped the issue.

Peter
 






Here is one thing to be concerned about; Water pump failure leads to dead engine
GIven your current mileage you may be okay as there are a few other high milers that escaped the issue.

Peter
Thanks for the previous posts, Peter, I will look into them further.
 






Change the fluid in the ptu if you haven’t already.
 






IMO, the biggest risk you face is a failed water pump. For most engines this would be a minor issue but for the 3.5L V6s installed in all Ford/Lincoln/Mercury vehicles, aside from the F150 and Mustang, it can lead to engine failure. The water pump is internal on these engines so when they leak coolant it is dumped into the crank case and this usually destroys the engine. Sometime they fail slowly and there is a small weep hole what drains coolant. Checking for leaks there is not easy. Instead I suggest you mark the coolant level on your reservoir when the car is warmed up. Then check the level at least once a week, or more. Any, and I mean any, drop in the coolant level requires you to stop driving the vehicle (with the possible exception to a shop) and check the oil for coolant or the weep hole for signs of leaking. A water pump replacement is a $1.5k-$2k job and most people change out the timing chains and guides while the car is apart for another $500-$700. An engine replacement is around $5k-$7k so catching the leak early is critical and you do this by diligently checking the coolant level. Even then, some pumps give no warning and just die catastrophically. Other than the water pump design flaw, the 3.5L engine is very robust and durable. If the owner really wants to hedge his bets against a water pump failure then replacing the pump as a preventative measure is an option.
 






IMO, the biggest risk you face is a failed water pump. For most engines this would be a minor issue but for the 3.5L V6s installed in all Ford/Lincoln/Mercury vehicles, aside from the F150 and Mustang, it can lead to engine failure. The water pump is internal on these engines so when they leak coolant it is dumped into the crank case and this usually destroys the engine. Sometime they fail slowly and there is a small weep hole what drains coolant. Checking for leaks there is not easy. Instead I suggest you mark the coolant level on your reservoir when the car is warmed up. Then check the level at least once a week, or more. Any, and I mean any, drop in the coolant level requires you to stop driving the vehicle (with the possible exception to a shop) and check the oil for coolant or the weep hole for signs of leaking. A water pump replacement is a $1.5k-$2k job and most people change out the timing chains and guides while the car is apart for another $500-$700. An engine replacement is around $5k-$7k so catching the leak early is critical and you do this by diligently checking the coolant level. Even then, some pumps give no warning and just die catastrophically. Other than the water pump design flaw, the 3.5L engine is very robust and durable. If the owner really wants to hedge his bets against a water pump failure then replacing the pump as a preventative measure is an option.
thanks for the input, I gad the cooling system flushed at 100K miles, hopefully that helps, I gad all fluids changed at the same time, NUT, I am not sure about the power transfer unit, does that share fluid with the transmission by chance?
 






No sharing of fluids.
 












thanks for the input, I gad the cooling system flushed at 100K miles, hopefully that helps, I gad all fluids changed at the same time, NUT, I am not sure about the power transfer unit, does that share fluid with the transmission by chance?
There is no physical interchanging of fluid between the components. They both might use the same type of fluid but I am not sure.
 






There is no physical interchanging of fluid between the components. They both might use the same type of fluid but I am not sure.

The PTU is like a transfer case and uses Motorcraft 75W140 gear fluid (or high end equivalent) and the transmission uses Mercon LV ATF. If the do ever mix, you have serious issues and things are going to boom very fast.

As for longevity, from what I've been reading, the PTU and water pump are the two weakest links. Keep up with regular normal maintenance. Seems like the 3.5 is the new 4.6. Widely used and tested.
 






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