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MrShorty i need your help again. or anyone else that knows...

My dad has a 1993 F250 with the 7.5L (460 cid) and it is having issues. first of all the front fuel pump isn't working (don't know why) and its not runnin right.

I ran codes and this is what I came up with.

CM

67
95

KOEO

31
41
87
95
96

KOER

21
74
65

what else can i check to find out what is wrong with his truck?
 



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1st comment: it appears that you've mixed up the KOEO and CM codes (KOEO codes come out first).

Code analysis:

KOEO 67: Can I assume he has a manual transmission? KOEO 67 is almost always from running the KOEO test with a manual transmission in gear. The computer expects to see the transmission in N. If this is an auto tranny (KOER 65 suggests it might have an E4OD with an o/d cancel switch), there could be a fault in the Park/Neutral position switch. Should be easy enough to track down with a wiring diagram and a voltmeter.

KOEO 95: Indicates a fault in the fuel pump circuit, and you indicate that the fuel pump doesn't seem to be working right. Time to get out a wiring diagram and a voltmeter and determine what problem the fuel pump circuit is having.

CM 87/95/96: All point to fuel pump circuit problems. At this point I'd ignore these codes until you resolve the KOEO 95.

CM 31/41: CM 41 could be related to the fuel pump problem (fuel pump not pumping means engine runs lean). CM 31 may be its own problem, but focus on the KOEO codes first and we may return to this one later.

KOER 21: ECT out of range. Often (especially when there isn't a CM code to go with it) this code is triggered by running the KOER test on a cold/cool engine. Make sure engine is at operating temperature before performing KOER test.

KOER 74: BOO circuit. Almost always, this code indicates that the operator neglected to press the brake after engine id was output. Repeat test and make sure to press the brake.

KOER 65: I don't have a code list for a '93 7.5, but my generic code list suggests that this might be another operator error. If it's an E4OD tranny, the PCM might expect you to press the OD cancel switch. If this code doesn't make sense, we might need to find a code list that is year/engine specific.

So, the main thing to work on at this point is the fuel pump circuit.
 






...just confirming...:D

65 #R Overdrive OFF switch was not cycled during KOER test (user error).
 






he actually has the auto trans. i can figure that one out later on.

the deal with his truck is there are 2 fuel pumps. front and rear. the front one, when switched on, kills the engine like it has no fuel. i don't hear a click or anything from it when i flipped it over.

engine was cold, forgot to pre heat it. i did also forget to do the boo test. i'm not sure about the od switch. i seen that and maybe i do have to press it off and back on?
 






...This is a single tank or dual tank set up???

...If so, The problem could be the tank switcher which has no electrical or vacuum hooked to it...It is on the frame rail with fuel lines connected to it...

...When they fail they will pump fuel to either the other tank or out the fuel filler hose...
 






its dual tank. we syphoned it to the other tank but left some in so the pump isn't ran dry. i'll go check the frame mounted switch
 






...I believe you should have 3 fuel pumps also then, plus the tank switcher...

...1- High volume pump on the frame rail and 1- low volume pump in each tank..Just a heads up, the tank switcher was a recall item..#93V125000

...There may be another reason but the only info given is 1 pump is not working...Are their any other symptoms??
 






where are all those located? oh and that recall number came up for a f150. is there a f250 recall?
 






...First, that recall # shows up for a lot of vehicles and yes, it was issued for the 93 F250 also..;)

...The low pressure fuel pumps are in each tank and the tank switcher and high pressure fuel pump are on the inside frame rail, drivers side...
 






...:scratch:...Any updates on this???
 






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