Remanufactured engine

[hondaslave1342]

Still no luck finding remanufactured long block. All on backorder. Any body know of reputable company than has replacement engine? One not using crap timing components. Thannnnnnnnnnnnnks

 

[allmyEXes]

4.0 SOHC

 

[Mbrooks420]

From the look of that website I’m gonna guess that the best timing components are not being used.

 

[allmyEXes]

Hopefully someone will chime in with the best option on the market.

 

[Mbrooks420]

I’m gonna guess it’ll be a crapshoot, unfortunately. Most remanufacturers aren’t going to be dead set on the best timing parts, when on most vehicles Cloyes is a reasonable option.

Especially if the OEM components aren’t available immediately. I’d be leery of something remanufactured now, with all the supply chain issues. I’d be wondering which parts were cheaped out on because the normal option was out of stock.

 

[hondaslave1342]

Hopefully someone will chime in with the best option on the market.

I found one and currently installing it. Dahmer powertrain.

 

[donalds]

Dahmer powertrain

Damer and powertrain products
My engine was from Damer

But I got mine from Damer
I took Recently mine apart all the parts were melling
I could tell by closely looking at tons of pictures
The picture above

Only parts I'd buy is
motorcraft
Melling
Cloys
The better kits are made of pa66 plastic
Which is glass fiber reinforced nylon

 

[bmdubya1198]

Bumping this thread, does anybody have any recommendations as of now? My dad is buying my '04, and he wants to get a reman engine (I bought it from my aunt after it jumped timing, whole big problem with an incompetent shop that put 3 junk engines in it and never replaced the timing components). He likes the idea of the reman engine since it's ready to drop in, however I'm not crazy about the idea due to both cost and quality.
I'm all for saving hours of labor on doing the chains and whatnot (I wouldn't drop a used engine into one of these without replacing those) but I don't trust the timing parts, or anything for that matter, that they're installing on these engines. Then again, I really don't care about anything else being new, I really just want the timing components to be new. Sounds like I have a clear choice in front of me...

Anyway, any input on reman options?

 

[donalds]

With cars costing so much people are putting new engines in you will find them on back order most of the time
I say timing job time

 

[Fix4Dirt]

imo jasper is the king of the hill simply because of the large dealer network, but its too much $$$ imo. 410fortune likes ATK, ive heard good things about companies like powertrain products, ford also sells their own remanned unit. though over the pandemic, with shortages, not sure quality was the #1 job, given that most of the ncie parts are on backorder. i'd find a low mile one and do a timing job, but remanned units are also good choices. good luck. or....... time for a v8 swap? *sniff sniff* i smell a v8 nearby ready to go in

 

[bmdubya1198]

imo jasper is the king of the hill simply because of the large dealer network, but its too much $$$ imo. 410fortune likes ATK, ive heard good things about companies like powertrain products, ford also sells their own remanned unit. though over the pandemic, with shortages, not sure quality was the #1 job, given that most of the ncie parts are on backorder. i'd find a low mile one and do a timing job, but remanned units are also good choices. good luck. or....... time for a v8 swap? *sniff sniff* i smell a v8 nearby ready to go in

I was considering an ATK, also looking at Fraser and Powertrain Products. Supply issues are definitely something that I was concerned about, who knows what parts they’re using just to get the engines in stock.
Powertrain Products shows to have them in stock, so that shouldn’t be an issue as of right now. I might go browse at the junkyard and find a good one, pull it, do the chains, and drop it in. That was the original plan, but I really didn’t want to do the timing job. I know I can handle it, it’s just very time consuming.

I’d love to do a 4 valve 4.6 swap!

 

[Fix4Dirt]

yeah ATK and PP (heh...) have good stuff in normal times, but never know today. never heard of fraser. imo the best job is one you do with your own 2 hands, so a lo mile one could be a nice score, and last a good while! the ford one, i wonder if that uses all ford parts... if it does, then that may be the best bet, but if not, i dunno.

why stop at the 2v... go all the way!!! 3v! or i heard a 7.3 fits too

 

[Lonnie-S]

Have you considered trying to find a local or regional remanufacturer? I've been asking around and found there is one pretty local to me (MJM Engines INC - San Diego Transmission Repair & Engine Installation) who does all their work in-house, and offers a 3-year, 100,000 mile warranty. You don't just send your core off somewhere and get a reman back. You actually talk to the people doing the work. They'll do your actual engine too - no pig in a poke stuff, coming from "who knows where."

If you wanted certain products to be used for the timing gear, I'm sure they would accomodate you.

Cheers,

 

[bmdubya1198]

yeah ATK and PP (heh...) have good stuff in normal times, but never know today. never heard of fraser. imo the best job is one you do with your own 2 hands, so a lo mile one could be a nice score, and last a good while! the ford one, i wonder if that uses all ford parts... if it does, then that may be the best bet, but if not, i dunno.

why stop at the 2v... go all the way!!! 3v! or i heard a 7.3 fits too

That's good to know that they do in fact have a decent reputation. Like it had been previously noted, who knows what could have changed for them to keep these engines in stock. Inferior parts may have been used since that's all they could get.

A 7.3 would be interesting! I'd love to pull a DOHC 4.6 out of an Aviator, but that's not as simple as just dropping it in, obviously. Looks like a simple swap overall, but this is going to be a daily driver that needs to be running as soon as possible.

Have you considered trying to find a local or regional remanufacturer? I've been asking around and found there is one pretty local to me (MJM Engines INC - San Diego Transmission Repair & Engine Installation) who does all their work in-house, and offers a 3-year, 100,000 mile warranty. You don't just send your core off somewhere and get a reman back. You actually talk to the people doing the work. They'll do your actual engine too - no pig in a poke stuff, coming from "who knows where."

If you wanted certain products to be used for the timing gear, I'm sure they would accomodate you.

Cheers,

That's a good idea, I'm sure there are plenty of places nearby. Charlotte/Concord/Mooresville NC is Race City USA, lots of engine builders and whatnot around here.

 

[hondaslave1342]

Bumping this thread, does anybody have any recommendations as of now? My dad is buying my '04, and he wants to get a reman engine (I bought it from my aunt after it jumped timing, whole big problem with an incompetent shop that put 3 junk engines in it and never replaced the timing components). He likes the idea of the reman engine since it's ready to drop in, however I'm not crazy about the idea due to both cost and quality.
I'm all for saving hours of labor on doing the chains and whatnot (I wouldn't drop a used engine into one of these without replacing those) but I don't trust the timing parts, or anything for that matter, that they're installing on these engines. Then again, I really don't care about anything else being new, I really just want the timing components to be new. Sounds like I have a clear choice in front of me...

Anyway, any input on reman options?

I installed mine a few months back. Dahmer powertrain. Alot easier than doing timing chain replacement. I would recommend changing the tensioners though,, I have cold rattle on startup already. I'm currently installing a accusump system to fix this.

 

[bmdubya1198]

I installed mine a few months back. Dahmer powertrain. Alot easier than doing timing chain replacement. I would recommend changing the tensioners though,, I have cold rattle on startup already. I'm currently installing a accusump system to fix this.

From what I understand, the tensioners are the most important part of preventing failure (unless the guides are already damaged) so that's a very good step to take.

 

[donalds]

You are correct here is why

 

[oklagp1200r]

I installed mine a few months back. Dahmer powertrain. Alot easier than doing timing chain replacement. I would recommend changing the tensioners though,, I have cold rattle on startup already. I'm currently installing a accusump system to fix this.

Just flood start it a few times to show oil pressure then start her up!

 

[bmdubya1198]

You are correct here is why

Great explanation! I’m thinking that whichever route I take, as long as I keep an ear on the tensioners and replace them ASAP if there appears to be a problem, I should be fine.

 

[Mr. Alligator]

Just wondering, if price is NOT an issue, can you get this from Ford dealer? What would this cost? (I know, “way too much”… but parts and labor should be good).

just wondering.