remote starter install problem

[g8r]

Lets see if this works:

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I used two ignition wires. Maybe I will call around and see who has the T-Harness here. Does it just snap into the ignition harness?

 

[checkedout]

When you lock your X is there a red light on the dash that says "THEFT"?

 

[g8r]

yes, but isnt the fasd wire supposed to take care of that? it should start if i dont lock it ?

 

[checkedout]

it looks like if you have the fasd wire connected, it should start. Have you tried tech support?

 

[g8r]

Ya ,I emailed them and left a phone message. Probably their busiest time of year so I dont know how long that will take. I think I am gonna go see a movie and forget about it for now. May as well enjoy my day of playing hookie! Thanks for your efforts.

 

[SOUTHERNSNAKE]

meter all the wires that function with the starter /
acc and start .

if they dont show voltage , then there is a possibility that you have a bad module ..
bull dog tech support is great . they probably are busy and more than likely , will not be open until monday due to the holidays . but hwen you get ahold of them , they will get you where you need to be in no time

 

[g8r]

Originally posted by SOUTHERNSNAKE
meter all the wires that function with the starter /
acc and start .

if they dont show voltage , then there is a possibility that you have a bad module ..

Thanks for the idea.

I checked the crank,acc and ignition 2 wires as zero with the remote pressed or not.

The ignition 1 wire out of the module registers 12 volts with or without the remote pressed.

Now does this mean its not getting the signal or a bad module?

 

[SOUTHERNSNAKE]

you should get voltage on the acessory when you press the start . the a brief moment after , the start wire should fire up for the amount of time the unit is programmed to crank. im not sure if the blower circuit will become hot , as if the unit isnt seeing anything comming back in to the tach wire ( unless it auto senceing and does not use a tach wire ) then it may not some on until it thinks the motor is running . not sure on that specific unit .

are you 100% positive that your "inputs" are good ?
constant 12v input
switched acc
and ground ?

im not a tech for bulldog nor really familliar with that specific unit . im just going by how starters generally function . it may be something that is being missed , or something as dumb as a bad transmitter . have you tried the same sequence on both transmitters ?
murphy always makes the problem the one thing we over look .
oh and make sure all your connectors to the main unit are seated properly , that can make a simple project a nightmare too .

if none of the above work , before we jump to the conclusion that the unit is bad for sure , id definetly speak to bulldog , they will probably have you repeat most of them steps and they may even have a few more for you. if they feel it is bad, im sure they will set you up with an rma for a swap out .

you could always try to return the unit where it was purchased , but it all depends on the re-sellers return policy on that is . they may be a ##### and say they wont warrienty the return because it wasn't done at a "professional shop" but bulldog units are mainly sold in pa at wallmart , they usually dont have a problem with that .

if you have time and the funds , you could buy another one , just swap the brains , leaving hte wiring harness intstalled and see what happens , if it then works , you have the bad brain with an untouched harness to return .

good luck

i bought my self an alarm/starter for xmas , and decided not to put it in , because of the headache and needing to add modules to bypass the security chip in the keys and what not . vehicles are no longer any fun to add accessories to anymore .

 

[V8BoatBuilder]

Originally posted by checkedout
When you lock your X is there a red light on the dash that says "THEFT"?

Good call. You have to bypass the Ford security system. the truck won't start unless the theft light is turned off. Not sure about bypassing the system. Ford didn't start putting chips into the keys until 1998. You know if you have a chip in the key if a hardware store key won't work. If the cut key works, you have no chip.

If you have a factory alarm, it needs to be disarmed first. Do you currently have a remote for the door locks?

Here's what I would do:
1) use a voltmeter to double check +12v and ground at the wiring harness of the bulldog unit. Use a paperclip into the connetor if your need to.

2) Since the wires are in paralell, do some more checking with the meter. a) when you move the key to "on" do you get +12v at your harness for the acc line? b) when the starter motor is running, do you get +12v at the start line?

 

[V8BoatBuilder]

Originally posted by g8r
Thanks for the idea.

I checked the crank,acc and ignition 2 wires as zero with the remote pressed or not.

The ignition 1 wire out of the module registers 12 volts with or without the remote pressed.

Now does this mean its not getting the signal or a bad module?

Seems odd to me. You shouldn't have +12v on the ignition wire unless the key is in the "on" position, or the remote starter is starting or running the car.

 

[g8r]

Well after talking with tech support I was told to connect to only one ignition wire and one accessory wire which contradicts their manual. I have done that and it still wont start. They did give me a good tip that might help someone else: If you take the AMA (blue) wire and ground it, if the car starts the remote is the problem. No such luck here. Using the wires I connected: If I connect the power to the ignition wire and then power to start wire, the truck starts. I guess I know how to hot wire my car! Bulldog just called me while writing this. He asked if it did anything or made any clicks. Told him no and he said there must be a problem with the unit as it should make some noise as long as its getting power, which it is. Thanks everyone for trying to help.

 

[g8r]

I thought I would update this topic just on the chance it may eventually help someone.

Installing a Bulldog Remote Starter RS82/85 in a 95 Explorer

1) I originally installed it exactly as per Bulldogs instructions:
-did not work, called tech support….
2) Minimized the install so that when there are extra ignition or accessory wires I only tied into one of each:
-did not work, called tech support….

3) To troubleshoot take the Blue (AMA) from the 9 pin harness and touch to ground. Vehicle should start
or the module should make a click at the least. It did not. Instructed to send back remote and module to
Bulldog. Bulldog determined the module was faulty and replaced it.

4) Installed the new module and vehicle does not start. Tried with the BLUE wire however and this time
the vehicle starts. Called tech support and they inform me they will send a new remote.

5) Went to Wal-Mart ( where I purchased the first one) and bought another one. Pressed the start on the
remote without opening the package and the vehicle started. If the one they send doesn’t work I will
just swap the remotes before returning it.

So in response to another posted topic " What do I need to install a Bulldog Remote Starter ? ":

PATIENCE

 

[checkedout]

I installed mine and everything worked the first time, not usually my luck. Sorry you had so much trouble but THANK YOU for posting your outcome! A lot of times people let these threads die out.