Running no Front Sway-Bar

[Vozar]

Im looking for front sway-bar disconnects and i have a question about running no-front swaybar on the trail. Are you more prone to breaking a cv-joint with your front sway-bar off? Also warrior products site is down for some weird reason. I will check for prices tomorrow. Thanks,

Matt

 

[Alec]

As long as your CVs are reasonably fine at full travel with the swaybar connected, it won't stress them more with it disconnected unless you get into a violent repetitive sway and one binds. Full travel is full travel regardless of if the bar is connected or not.

That being said I know I suggested to you yesterday that you were stressing your CVs with 3" of TT. They can handle moments of extreme angles, but aren't designed to always be at that much of an angle.

 

[jasonb]

yeah a 3" TT sounds a lil scary for the CVs to me. it'll probably work for a while.. but if you have your front locker in already.. count on replacing some CVs soon. definitely take a spare set with you next time you wheel! as far as the swaybars, you can disconnect them in about 3 minutes as they are. i didn't see the point in buying quick disconnects. i consider less than 3 minutes pretty quick, especially when i can disconnect mine the few times they are connected before my friends in other vehicles get their quick disconnects off.

 

[nissanboy]

yeah a 3" TT sounds a lil scary for the CVs to me. it'll probably work for a while.. but if you have your front locker in already.. count on replacing some CVs soon. definitely take a spare set with you next time you wheel! as far as the swaybars, you can disconnect them in about 3 minutes as they are. i didn't see the point in buying quick disconnects. i consider less than 3 minutes pretty quick, especially when i can disconnect mine the few times they are connected before my friends in other vehicles get their quick disconnects off.

ok i hate to argue but with a swaybar off you will get more travel... no matter what suspension you have. If your CV's are near maxing out with a 3" TT then they will bind and break when you take the Swaybar off. the reason i say that is because your righ and left suspension can now operate independently of each other if you take the sway bar off... that means full stuff from one takes all the weight off the other side allowing it full droop and then you go to turn and KA-BANG there goes a CV.

 

[jasonb]

yes he will get more flex, but that's asking a lot from the IFS we have.. i don't know how you are arguing, you didn't say anything different from what you quoted. both of us agree that he will need spare CVs from what i can tell.

with the 3" its already questionable enough. i'd consider backing them off some personally.

 

[Vozar]

I think im going to take the front sway bar off this weekend and test and see how much more flex i get. Im really looking for just a little bit better ride and a little more flex. How much time do u think it would take to change out a cv-joint on the trail? What special tools would i need? Socket for spindle nut, basic hand tools, other sockets. I have never changed out a CV-before so its a learning experience. Any tips? Thanks guys, Matt

 

[jasonb]

if you've never done it and your first time is on the trail... i'd give yourself an hour at least because nothing will go just right. its not hard to do, but you have to remove a few things first including the 200+ ftlb spindle nut. 32mm socket, breaker bar, loctite, 15mm or 1/2" (can't remember) for the pinch bolt, 1/2" for the shock bottom, whatever the top is (it can be removed without taking the shock off though), wheel bearing grease, jack, elbow grease, big screwdriver or pry tool, new gear lube (if you spill any out of the diff), curse words. that's about it i think. keep in mind i'm not mentioning the stuff needed to remove the caliper assembly and bracket and rotor.
look at the writeup jefe did about installing the front locker in the "useful threads" forum. it has the steps to remove the CV passenger side and is a great writeup. you'd just do the same for the driver side..

the flex difference is minimal. the ride is much better.

 

[Blee1099]

Sounds like you replaced a few on the trails before Jason..

 

[jasonb]

nope.. never had one break.. i have pulled them a few times in the driveway though!

 

[Alec]

Like I said above, full travel is full travel regardless of the swaybar. However, it is much easier to reach full travel with the bar disconnected since each side can operate independently.