SC Mounty VS. Crackhead Camaro

[E.B. Cornburner]

Even without a huffer, your Mounty could probably beat that slow-maro. Just give your truck a serious diet beforehand! Get rid of the bangin' rims, and as much stereo and other dead weight as you can first. Every 100 pounds of weight you can get rid of will equal roughly a tenth in the quarter mile.
These trucks in stock trim with the 4.0 SOHC run low-mid 16s in the quarter mile. The Chebby runs mid 15s. Pair up a tired engine, useless power robbing mods like open exhaust, a "chip" in the IAT sensor (all that does is make it run pig rich) and a rookie driver, and you've probably got a win light in your lane.

I've beaten vehicles I never thought I'd have a fighting chance against just because of being a better drag racer. I have great 60' times and lightning fast reaction times. I remember one night at the track on a "High School Drags" night, by buddies all wanted to test and tune their cars and I decided to go along too. Heck, for 10 bucks you can take all the passes you can fit in. I had a bone stock 2001 Jeep Cherokee, and some guy in a Nissan 240SX wanted to go against me in a grudge race...Straight up, off the tree. My Jeep took one pass prior to that and ran a 16.0, but that was right after getting there, so it was hot as could be.
I raced the guy in the Nissan, and got the win light even though he had a faster E.T. and trapped faster than me. How did I do that, might you ask? I had a 60' time that was 0.7 seconds faster, and I cut a .004 light on that run. Even though I only ran a 15.89 against his 15.45, I still got the win light.
If a drag racer ever mentions that the race is won or lost in the first 60 feet, believe them...It is.

 

[storlied]

the old 5.0 stangs only put down about 195 horses (in the early stages in the late 80s and early 90s) as opposed to ur 210hp plus mods which mite get u around 230 with the new pulley for the SC... id say go for it... besides the fact that he has weight on his side, urs is quite new and theres a decent shot... if u have AWD u can get a better launch than him but then again if u have rwd u can always heat up the tires... there are alot of factors but i think the fact that he lost to a stock 5.0 says alot... id say go for it

Could you explain the whole AWD thing and heating tires with 2WD?

I thought the AWD system robs a crap load of HP?

 

[stev0n]

okay... stock to stock a mustang 5.0 or 4.6 can't even stand up the 3.8 v6 camaro (i've seen it at the track i used to work at time and time again) - let alone an lt1 or ls1.

a stock lt1 camaro runs between a 13.7 and a 14.3 - it really depends on the driver. my best friend has 3 93 lt1's, and ran a 13.57 in his newest one before modding it. the autos are faster than the manuals, but only by a couple tenths of a second. (like i said depends on the driver)

I have beat several fox body 5.0s in my 2.4 4cyl. nissan 240sx - my friend beat a 5.0 with headers in his chrysler new yorker.

the majority of the lt1's torque is in the low end and apparently this guy has NONE! The only way i possibly see you losing if he's got 4.56s and your running in an 8th. and even then it would be close.

 

[storlied]

I wonder how my 5.0L would stand up to this race?
Mac Intake/3" Cat Back
91 Octane Performance Tune
3.73s with 31's... prolly no chance at all.. lol..


Considering the Mounty is s/c'd.. I think it'll have a chance if you launch just right.

 

[techieman33]

I wonder how my 5.0L would stand up to this race?
Mac Intake/3" Cat Back
91 Octane Performance Tune
3.73s with 31's... prolly no chance at all.. lol..


Considering the Mounty is s/c'd.. I think it'll have a chance if you launch just right.

You would probably be lucky to run a low 17

 

[NYMount21]

I've beaten a camaro screwing around in my 5.0 mounty one night......thats what happens when ur daddy talks up his poor investment around u too much haha

 

[storlied]

You would probably be lucky to run a low 17

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Stock 5.0 Explorer's & Mounty's 17s trucks?

I would think I'd be in the high 16s.

 

[techieman33]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Stock 5.0 Explorer's & Mounty's 17s trucks?

I would think I'd be in the high 16s.

They run around a 17.4 stock, and your current mods probably bring you back to about stock performance with your bigger tires.

 

[storlied]

31's with 3.73ls drops me down that much?
It's hard to believe my Mods don't bring me even higher than stock.. yea.. not as high as with stock tires.. but I don't believe it'll bring me just back to stock.

 

[techieman33]

31's with 3.73ls drops me down that much?
It's hard to believe my Mods don't bring me even higher than stock.. yea.. not as high as with stock tires.. but I don't believe it'll bring me just back to stock.

I ran a 17 flat with my my cai and exhaust on stock tires, and tekman05 ran about the same with similar mods, I really doubt your going to be any faster with bigger tires

 

[E.B. Cornburner]

Those quarter mile times suck! Motor Trend tested the 4.0 Explorer back in '03 and ran a 16.4 with it.

I haven't taken mine to the track (and see no point in doing so) but I'd think I could get a mid 16 out of it just based on the way it feels on the street. My butt-dyno is pretty well tuned. I can usually guesstimate a vehicle's quarter mile time within half a second.

I will admit though that when I had my '01 Cherokee (bone stock 190 HP 4.0L I-6) one of my co-workers had a '01 Explorer 5.0 AWD and I'd beat him quite profusely whenever we'd play around racing each other on the road. Maybe the 5.0 Explorers are only a 17 second ride?

 

[storlied]

Stock they are. The stock exhaust manifolds really step on this engine's potential. They weren't designed to race, they were designed to tow.

 

[best X]

dude i put my money on you my gut just has a fealing ur going to beat him

 

[JDraper]

okay... stock to stock a mustang 5.0 or 4.6 can't even stand up the 3.8 v6 camaro (i've seen it at the track i used to work at time and time again) - let alone an lt1 or ls1.

a stock lt1 camaro runs between a 13.7 and a 14.3 - it really depends on the driver. my best friend has 3 93 lt1's, and ran a 13.57 in his newest one before modding it. the autos are faster than the manuals, but only by a couple tenths of a second. (like i said depends on the driver)

I have beat several fox body 5.0s in my 2.4 4cyl. nissan 240sx - my friend beat a 5.0 with headers in his chrysler new yorker.

the majority of the lt1's torque is in the low end and apparently this guy has NONE! The only way i possibly see you losing if he's got 4.56s and your running in an 8th. and even then it would be close.

Riiiiggghhhtt...so a 200 hp, 3300lb Camaro V-6 can regularly beat a 260 hp, 2900 lb Fox body 5.0 or a 300 hp, 3100 lb 4.6 Mustang? And your 140 hp 2800 lb car can dispatch the same 260 hp, 2900 lb car?

A Fox body 5.0 in stock trim was good for roughly a 14.5-15.5 1/4 mile (year dependent) and the stock 240sx was good for roughly a 16.0-16.5 1/4 mile. A 2V 4.6 Mustang is a 13.5-14.5 1/4 mile car.... You do the math...

 

[storlied]

I believe his truck has 210hp. He also has a supercharger.

 

[bigapple]

Could you explain the whole AWD thing and heating tires with 2WD?

I thought the AWD system robs a crap load of HP?

well the reason ur supposed to heat the tires when racing with a 2wd is because it makes them sticky and u dont spin them on the launch... if u launched with them cold, ud lose plenty ground spinning them

awd launches def have a big advantage... the loss u mite be talking about is high end... once the car gets rolling, if all 4 wheels are still pulling, believe it or not, u get less torque on the ground whereas a rwd does much better once it shoots out the hole

 

[storlied]

Oh..




what?...

 

[Kyle0614]

even though the camaro has very few modifications nothing near 500...he may have like 230 at most with what he already has and btw a torque converter does not add horsepower...tell him you already won because he was stupid and bought a automatic lt1 for god sakes who the f**k even waste there money on a auto LT1...but as much as I hate to let you down ...the camaro is going to most likely have the advantage..because it will probably run between a 14.3-15.0 as it sits with light modification that it already has...but hey maybe you'll get lucky and his dumbass will through a rod trying to race that automatic down the track and then you will win. but other than that even with a S/C for the X you'll be lucky to get it to 15.5...good luck and hope this info helps...

 

[JDraper]

Oh..

what?...

Basically he's saying that, with all other things being equal, an AWD system is better off the line than a RWD system because you have all 4 wheels pulling, but on the top end, a RWD system may be better because it loses less power through the drivetrain (since AWD systems eat up some of that power in the transfer case and extra driveshaft/axles).

 

[storlied]

Ah, I understand now. [really.. I do this time.]
If only they had a "race" system that disconnected the front drive shaft at a certain speed. =P [hm.. do I sense a new mod idea?]