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Shake in car coming from Engine

Hi All,

Engine still moves a lot.

It is worse in Park then in Drive.

Did the following already:

Cleaned MAF
Cleaned Idle Valve
Replaced 6 sparks
Replaced 6 spark cables
Replaced Air Filter
Used an addon for Injection cleaner

Still the same. Any one an idea ??

Will post a MPEG movie tomorrow so that you guys can see the shake of the enigne. Maybe it is normal for an explorer.

More ideas/solutions will be nice.

Edward
 



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All the fluids have been changed too?

How'd it go with the fluid changes? What did you change?
 






I use carb cleaner when cleaning the IAC and spraying into the intake, but that might just be me. Be careful to not start it right after spraying carb cleaner in the intake though becuase it's VERY VERY FlAMEABLE and could cause a back fire or something....

Try sea foam, it's $8 ish for a can and has helped a lot of people with poor idle.
 






How'd it go with the fluid changes? What did you change?

The Engine oil and filter has been changed.

Transmission fluid and filter will be changed this week, but can this cause the shake in engine ??
 






I use carb cleaner when cleaning the IAC and spraying into the intake, but that might just be me. Be careful to not start it right after spraying carb cleaner in the intake though becuase it's VERY VERY FlAMEABLE and could cause a back fire or something....

Try sea foam, it's $8 ish for a can and has helped a lot of people with poor idle.


Oke so also spray in to the intake manifold ??

I have been reading a lot about sea foam, what excactly is sea foam and how do I use it, Thanks
 






Yes

The Engine oil and filter has been changed.

Transmission fluid and filter will be changed this week, but can this cause the shake in engine ??

Because your transmission fluid has never been changed... your transmission could fail. You should change that as soon as possible.
 






Altenae, you've received a great deal of suggestions from other fellow forum members, however, it would be best if you had the vehicle inspected by a technician. My 01 Sport Trac had a similar idle issue since new, it never got worse, but it was never bad enough for me to do any more than to complain about it from time to time. Nothing that I did made that go away. It would idle very nicely most of the time, but from time to time it would send a series of inputs into the chassis, which I could feel inside the vehicle. It didn't look like much while watching the engine but it felt rough and unrefined.

In my humble opinion, Explorers are relatively low-tech and unrefined. Others will have their own opinions on this, but I've driven various types of vehicles, including SUVs to have reached this conclusion. You'll get to a point where you've exhausted every option and you still come back to basic and typical lack of attention to detail at the design phase.

Ride quality is a very subjective attribute. Suspension engineers calibrate spring and damper characteristics to suit a certain driving style and to satisfy the majority of consumer preferences. Hence, we all tend to assess ride and performance according to our own likes and dislikes. I found my Sport Trac to be nothing short of dangerous on the highway...never mind the dreadful ride quality. Most of the people that I drove around in it pointed it out and, even though I sold it already, they still bring it up to tease me. It's doubtful whether putting on aftermarket shock absorbers will smoothen the ride. Aftermarket shock absorbers are typically stiffer. They'll offer more control but will compromise on primary ride quality. Whatever you do, DON'T lower the tire pressure below the specified pressure (owner's manual or label on door jamb).

I'm sure you're well aware of the fact that the SUV will feel different from your sedan, you've stated that already. If you feel the ride quality or idle quality are at an unacceptable level, you should have a technician confirm that. You've done everything you could do and you've taken a logical approach. Without any trouble codes, it is hard to pinpoint what it could be. If it is mechanical, someone will need to diagnose it.

Someone suggested checking the engine mounts. The rubber portion of one of the mounts could have deteriorated - that will need to be inspected, however engine mounts are designed to absorb vibrations at certain frequencies. Beyond that, they're solid chunks of rubber whose ultimate purpose is to support the engine. I've had broken mounts before and the only time they got vocal was when going over bumps. A vibration is a result of mechanical or firing imbalance so the root cause will need to be investigated.

I'm not sure how hard it will be for you to find someone locally who is well versed and honest to disclose and diagnose the problem correctly. Don't spend any more money until you've had a conclusive diagnosis...that's my advice...
 












Here the MPEG of the shaking engine. You can see the shake very good if you look at the movement of the powersteering oil holder.

Let me know what you about the shake. You can feel the shake in the car very well.

It is a high resolution Mpeg from 55 MB, sorry for the size.

Use right mouse button on the URL and select save as

http://www.aviationphotos.org/engine.mpg


Edward
 






What seafoam product Do I need for the Idle problem:

Dead Link Removed

I wonder if you can buy this in Holland
 






The motor treatment. Again if you spay carb cleaner into the intake let it sit for a while(I wait at least an hour) to be sure it has dried as it is VERY VERY flammable.

I'll give you a quick how to with sea foam, it's been covered a hundred times so search if you need a more in depth how to.

I run it through the brake booster line. Run the engine till warm, shut it off. Take the hose off the brake booster which is the large pancake looking black drum on the drivers side against the firewall. Make sure you have access to the throttle body. Have the can of sea foam open and handy. Start the truck, put your thumb over the vacuum hose. Place the hose over the top of the sea foam, not all the way, you want it to slowly suck up the fluid. Hold the throttle open a little bit to keep the truck running, not all the way or even roaring just enough so it'll keep running. Let it take in half the can or so then shut the truck off. Put the hose back on the brake booster, let the truck sit for 5mins at least. Then start it back up and watch the smoke show. It's going to idle rough for a few minutes and SMOKE like you wouldn't believe. It should smooth out and idle like normal if not much better.
 






The motor treatment. Again if you spay carb cleaner into the intake let it sit for a while(I wait at least an hour) to be sure it has dried as it is VERY VERY flammable.

I'll give you a quick how to with sea foam, it's been covered a hundred times so search if you need a more in depth how to.

I run it through the brake booster line. Run the engine till warm, shut it off. Take the hose off the brake booster which is the large pancake looking black drum on the drivers side against the firewall. Make sure you have access to the throttle body. Have the can of sea foam open and handy. Start the truck, put your thumb over the vacuum hose. Place the hose over the top of the sea foam, not all the way, you want it to slowly suck up the fluid. Hold the throttle open a little bit to keep the truck running, not all the way or even roaring just enough so it'll keep running. Let it take in half the can or so then shut the truck off. Put the hose back on the brake booster, let the truck sit for 5mins at least. Then start it back up and watch the smoke show. It's going to idle rough for a few minutes and SMOKE like you wouldn't believe. It should smooth out and idle like normal if not much better.

Oke thank you, is the Idle Valve Carb cleaner still needed after the sea foam clean ?

If the answer is yes, you also sprayed Carb cleaner in here (http://www.aviationphotos.org/iac.jpg) ??

Again many thanks.
 






Idle air control, I would clean it seperatly. Inside the intake manifold....you could clean it so you can see your reflection in the plastic and it'll be filthy after a week. The holes going into the manifold from the IAC should be cleaned as well. Yea, clean those out.
 






As you can read no seafoam in Holland or Europe:

Dear Edward Altena,

We appreciate your interest in Sea Foam products. Currently Sea Foam
products are only sold in the United States and Canada. We are sorry to
have to tell you that their is currently no place to buy Sea Foam products
in Holand or any where in Europe. Thank you for your interest in Sea Foam products.

Kari Hanson
Customer Service
Sea Foam Sale Company
 






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