Also, at the end of the day we were trying to loosen the drivers side body mount bolt under the kick panel and the size of the disc or washer thing is so big that its really hard to grip. I'm using the second to largest size channel locks you can buy at home depot, I don't think the larger size will even fit in there to grab it but I was having a major hard time trying to prevent that thing from spinning. Maybe I was just tired, I will try again in the morning. I sprayed the hell out of it and the passenger side mounts with more PB Blaster before I left. I'm not a weakling, maybe its the fact that my truck was at one time wrecked to the point the frame was out of alignment, maybe that was making things harder. It was totaled at one point from hitting a parked car and it has been rear ended when previous owners had the truck. It s a mess, I'm sore.