ok guys, im about to go up to indiana to Purdue Univ...so ill be spending 4 winters up there in all the cold, ice, rust, etc...my folks suggested i get my car covered in that rust-prevenative under coating stuff, not sure what its called....but anyway, how much would a job like that cost for a 99 sport, where would I get it done?...i live in stone mountain, georgia, bout 20-something miles outside of Atlanta, so if anyone lives near me, lemme know if you know where i can get it done down here...if not ill have to find a place in Indiana to get it done....so, if you live in west lafayette, indiana, and know of a place to get it done lemme know also...thanks...
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Just get a can of undercoating from your local auto parts store. It works just as well and you can use it more then once if it starts to fade off which it shouldn't... you can use it all over the place too, inside the door, in the roof under the lining, all that good stuff. It's cheap too, and the labor is all yours so its free.
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Follow Matt's advice and do it yourself. Dealerships used the same type of stuff that you can buy on your own and charge hundred(s) of dollars to do the same thing and make about a 1000% markup on the job.
And to add a little interest and other-sided comment to this thread, I have heard that it is actually not a good idea to do this. Newer models have some rustproofing already and if you do this to a vehicle that's been driven awhile all you will do is seal IN the moisture/salt/pollutants already under the frame and do more harm than good. Has anyone else heard this? Just in case this has merit, if/when you decide to do this do a VERY good job of cleaning out the entire undercarriage and then waiting to air out ALL the moisture before beginning.
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And to add a little interest and other-sided comment to this thread, I have heard that it is actually not a good idea to do this. Newer models have some rustproofing already and if you do this to a vehicle that's been driven awhile all you will do is seal IN the moisture/salt/pollutants already under the frame and do more harm than good. Has anyone else heard this? Just in case this has merit, if/when you decide to do this do a VERY good job of cleaning out the entire undercarriage and then waiting to air out ALL the moisture before beginning.
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Eastwood makes a flat black spray that covers everything underneath that you can spray. Can be applied directly over any rust onto any metal.
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Most people around here agree that the best anti-rust treatment is an oil spray. I have it done every year for about $40CDN. You can choose from no-drip, semi-drip or drip oil spray. The no-drip doesn't wick itself into any cracks, but it stays on your truck longer. Some places will put on a combination of these oils to best suit different areas of your car. The drip oil is sprayed through small holes drilled in your door and body (inside the doorways) so the oil actually sits in the cracks INSIDE your doors and body panels. Purists would say you should have it done in the spring as well, to "neutralize any remaining salt", but I only get it done every November.
The problem with some "undercoatings" is that they eventually dry up, and start to crack, which creates more small places for rust-creating salt spray to reside. And being protected like that, the metal turns to rust underneath the undercoating. There are some that I have seen which are like a thick tar, which doesn't appear to dry and flake like that, however.
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The problem with some "undercoatings" is that they eventually dry up, and start to crack, which creates more small places for rust-creating salt spray to reside. And being protected like that, the metal turns to rust underneath the undercoating. There are some that I have seen which are like a thick tar, which doesn't appear to dry and flake like that, however.
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Some time ago there was an article on this subject in Consumer Reports. In a nutshell-aftermarket undercoating is fine for deading sound and slowing some rust in the nooks and cranies of new vehicles, but if a vehicle is more that 3 or 4 weeks from its build date, it's not worth the money and you'll make rust problems worse. The undercoating traps existing moisture in those hard to reach areas and promotes rust. My personal experience with a two year old vehicle purchased in California, cleaned, rustproofed, and used for three years in Hawaii bears this out. I fought rust for the remainder of the time I owned that vehicle. I would never rustproof a vehicle again-even one being used in Hawaii. Explorers are pretty good when it comes to rust. In several years of watching and reading this and other Explorer forums I've seen only three instances of rust complaints; two on the lift gate and one on the rocker panel. As I look around I just don't see rust on Explorers, and that includes the times I go back to the midwest where they salt the roads in the winter. And, as the saying goes, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting an Explorer-anywhere in the U.S. Just my 02 worth. Jim
Jambo, where do you have the oil spray done? I live in Minnesota and deal with many of the same salt issues that you do. Is it something you can do yourself? Thanks!
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I used to have an aquaintance (friend of my father's) who did it for us... but even he had a special setup. He had a hoist, and a pressurized spray system, and of course, the proper kind of oil. He worked Saturdays doing this for all kinds of people. Last year I found a coupon for a different place, and since it made it the same price, I thought I would try the "professionals", and see if there was any difference. Well, the pros drilled a few more holes, in some different locations (holes for oiling inside the body). So it appears that they know what they are doing a bit more, as far as where to oil in any given vehicle. In your case, all I would do is look up "Rust Proofing" in your phone book. But many places will try to sell you different things and offer warranties (if your truck is new enough.) Just try to find someone that does "drip and/or semi-drip" oil spraying.
As far as doing it yourself goes, I suppose one could... but you'd have to research on what the proper kind of oil is, and where to get it (Note: Motor oil is not the right oil, especially used motor oil). You would also have to have a good way of applying it, so a pressurized spray that emmits almost a fine mist or something. And you would have to find out where the best places are to drill inside the doors. Also you would need the rubber plugs that they put in the holes when they are done. It costs me around $40 or $50 Canadian, so I think having it done for you is the best solution. Best of luck.
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I used to have an aquaintance (friend of my father's) who did it for us... but even he had a special setup. He had a hoist, and a pressurized spray system, and of course, the proper kind of oil. He worked Saturdays doing this for all kinds of people. Last year I found a coupon for a different place, and since it made it the same price, I thought I would try the "professionals", and see if there was any difference. Well, the pros drilled a few more holes, in some different locations (holes for oiling inside the body). So it appears that they know what they are doing a bit more, as far as where to oil in any given vehicle. In your case, all I would do is look up "Rust Proofing" in your phone book. But many places will try to sell you different things and offer warranties (if your truck is new enough.) Just try to find someone that does "drip and/or semi-drip" oil spraying.
As far as doing it yourself goes, I suppose one could... but you'd have to research on what the proper kind of oil is, and where to get it (Note: Motor oil is not the right oil, especially used motor oil). You would also have to have a good way of applying it, so a pressurized spray that emmits almost a fine mist or something. And you would have to find out where the best places are to drill inside the doors. Also you would need the rubber plugs that they put in the holes when they are done. It costs me around $40 or $50 Canadian, so I think having it done for you is the best solution. Best of luck.
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