Unfortunately I probably won't be going on another run until spring(a lot of trails shutdown come January) unless a large event gets started then I'd have to go lol. I'll start the thread earlier next time and pm all the local members I'll add you to the local list I actually didn't know until recently that VA actually had a decent active EF member base.but the people that missed this run I'm sure will get the bug for next time.I might try to hit up flagpole knob and maybe some other trails I haven't been on like, I think it's called Peters mill run? It's an orv park you have to get a day pass for..next time. big levels/bald mountain is a really awesome trail through, which I think is always worth doing ,it makes what's left of shoe Creek not even really worth messing with anymore in my opinion.