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newbz

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Hi everyone again. Ok here is my situation, what would you do? You have a 91 stock explorer. You want a new sound system. You have $550.00 to spend on this system. What would you put in?
 



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I'd start with getting a nice CD player/changer.

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i believe you can get a nice cd receiver for about 200 bucks...so with the remaining $350 i would either replace all 6x8's with new ones or get components to replace them...with the remaining 100-150 i dont know what i'd do with it...maybe put it in the ole savings account Dead Link Removed

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Go with a set of new speakers first. Putting in a new head unit won't do much if you still have crappy speakers putting out crappy sound. If you want to go super budget, then get just a single set of new speakers for the front, and you have $450 left. Plenty to buy an amp and a sub too, or the MTX integrated stealthform sub with amp and speaker level inputs. You may even have extra money for a decent head unit, but I would put that last. Just make sure to take in mind these extra, costs: RCA cables (DON'T waste your time with all the super shielded gold nonsense, most car setups don't need it), amp power wire kit ($30-50), radio harness wires (free-$15), and maybe even the signal adapter ($40).

Good luck!
 






I believe the door speakers are 5X7 not 6x8.
I know this because I have taken all four doors appart and repalced the motors,inner and outer door handels,all the arm rests and soon the entire sound system. I have everything but the door speakers. The set I want will be 150 a pair. They are the cleanest and loudes 5x7s on the market. Kenwood makes them.
 






i'm pretty sure 6x8's will fit too...people around here have 6x8's in theirs and i'm planning on putting the new pioneer 6x8's which have the little spiral thingy in mine...pioneer doesnt even make a 5x7 i dont think

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'93 explorer sport 4x4
splitfire wires
bosch +4 plugs
hella 530 foglights
 






$550 huh?? well to be honest with you i would get my self a fairly inexpensive head unit.then either get yourself a sub with amp or just get an amp and some new door speakers. I have a 91 EB with everything replaced except the door speakers. I have a amp powering those and those old factory things actually sound better than the speakers i tried to replace them with. But for sure start with a head unit.

Dan

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It all depends on what type of sound you want... 550 isnt much to spend on a system either. If you want a good deck, but dont care if its this years model, go to a car stereo or appliance store which has B-stock or "repacks". You're going to have to ask them for it. I sold a buddy an originally 400 dollar cd player for 135 bucks, and I could have gone down to 85 for a kenwood kdc5009. Cost on these things is incredibly low. If you're in the seattle area try Magnolia Hifi, thats where I work and I know we have a bunch of stuff just no one asks. Only thing wrong with it was that it was 2 years old and was b-stock. then get yourself a sub and amp. Simple as dat.
 






Hell Fire's right. $500 is a drop in the bucket. Ok. Lets approach this like any other project.

Firstly, are you planning on making a "system" or are you just upgrading. If your upgrading move to section 2.

1.) Remember to do your system is phases. I'm on the next to final phase of my system now. I already have my speakers, ams, sub, and am now replacing the cheap Sony head unit I bought with an Alpine CVA-1005.

If your going to make a system of it I would buy a good head unit first. When purchasing a head unit consider several things. How many RCA outputs are there (these are needed to run audio to the amps) and are they high or low output. A good head unit will have 4 to 6. 2xFront, 2xRear, 2xSub. My Sony has 4, so I have 2xFront and 2xRear. This is needed for fade and balance control. The power output on the "RCA" jacks will be important when you buy your amps, higher will give you a "cleaner" signal, it helps keep out interferance. Also, what kind of skip protection is there, remember a Explorer IS an SUV and as such rides like one. DIN size, do you have a single DIN slot or a dual DIN slot. DIN is a term used to refer to the size of your head unit. Most head units are single DIN but there now going to dual DIN size which will let you put a more feature packed unit in, or a unit like my Alpine CVA-1005 and slave a CD player off it like the Alpine CDA-5755G. Power out-put on the speakers is probably not that important if you have the factory amp, just wire the speaker leads off the amp to the speaker leads off the head unit. REMEMBER TO CONNECT THE REMOTE POWER ON! I sat there for 3 hours wondering why I wasnt getting anything out of the factory amp, until I noticed it's lead. It SHOULD be light blue.

That about covers an Intro to head units. Panisonic's Dual Shock looks to be a good entry head unit, has robust features, plenty of skip protection (it's there selling feature) and will run you about $250. Please, please, PLEASE dont buy a head unit because it has a nifty animated display. You wont be able to see it durring the day and the cool factor wears of REAL quick.

2.) Buy somthing thats going to be easy for you to adjust while your driving, my Sony is wicked in that respect. I wish Alpine whould have placed the control nob on the left side of the unit instead of the right. Makes a huge diffrence, especially when you have a manual transmision. When installing, it's temping to just cut the old harnes off and wire directly. DO NOT DO THAT. Used what is called a Reverse wireing harness. It will have you about 3 hours and 2 bottles of Asprine. These can be found where you bought the radio (I bought mine at Auto Zone for $10). The reverse harness will clamp onto the orignal harness saving you from having to sit in the truck with the dash apart holding a soldering iron. There pretty self explanitory, you wire the leads from the aft of the head unit to the reverse harness and "Plug-and-Pray". Do it right the first time, it will be cheaper that way.

Well, that about does it. If you have any questions, post here or E-Mail me. Dead Link Removed

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Alright this is my plan for now. I am going to take out the door speakers and put either 6x8 or 6x9 pioneers with the spiral thing int he center of them, whats it for? I am also going to get the MTX 10" sub w/ amp that replaces the JBL cargo room amp and speaker. I will then save up more for a head unit, I am interested in the b-stock units, how do I ask for them? Any recommendations? How do you take off the plastic enclosure for the cargo room speaker and amp? How does this sound? Anyone got diagrams of the exlporers electrical system/lines? Thanks for the great feedback guys, keep it up, please =)
 






Here's my $0.02. I would replace the head deck then the speakers. I would wait on the sub, simply b/c the factory setup will not be able to drive that sub correctly anyway, the amp sucks. Also, all speakers on the standard Ford setup are 6x8, I know this because I use and have many people who have used direct replacements and they are 6x8. Most 5x7 will fit, but are not the exact size. The spiral thing I think you are refering to is foudn on Pioneeer 3-way speakers. Your stock coaxial speakers have two parts, a woofer and a tweeter. Newer speakers are desgined completely different, and come in 2,3, and 4-way flavours. The little thing in the middle is the tweeter and midrange device of the speakers, the gold molding around the entire speakers, under the middle peice is the woofer.

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http://www.3drant.com/about/jay/Mountaineer/

This page is for a newer Explorer, but it's basically the same in terms of interior and plastic panels. It is very picture intensive, so it may take you a while, but well worth it, it'll give you a great idea of what's going on.
 






Hey Turner55, I have Pioneer 5x7's in my explorer. I have seen most of the 5x7's also say 6x8 right beside it, so I would assume that they would both fit perfectly. And Pioneer makes some now that are made for ford and mazda that are 6x8 so...

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newbz

For closeouts and b-stocks, check out http://www.spidergear.com. I picked up a Denon DCT-950R, a $650 high end CD receiver for $190. Also check out the factory outlet stores. I recently bought a $1000 Infinity Kappa 5-channel amp for $290 and a pair of Infinity Polydome mids for $25 a pair. You can also check out Ebay, but that's pretty hit-or-miss. I've had good luck with them so far, picking up a pair of Infinity tweeters and mid bass speakers from their Overture home speaker line for $60. I'm having a guy at a local car audio shop design a custom crossover for them. Just look around, there are some great deals out there. Good luck!

peace

Mike
 






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