X on jack stands... torsion flip gone wrong? (help!)

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Hey

Well as some of you know, today was my attempt at finally flipping the adjusters and being done with this lowering job. Everything was cool, got the adjusters out, then I got a phone call that my friend ran out of gas about 5 miles away, so we hopped in my friends truck with a gas can and whatever. So we get back like 20mins later, and my friends continued to help work on the truck... I come back to the god dam thing being slammed. They took the torsion bars and everything out and wanted to screw with my head, and they said the torsion bar was bent, little did they know I actually know something about my suspension, and there's no way it could bend whatsoever, so I give them all the finger, they show me my bars and all in the room next door.

To make this quick, we started putting the bars back in and do the flip, but it continued to slam to the wheels, and we moved it up another notch, again, slammed. So we finally just said screw it, we'll do it some other time. So we flipped them the normal way, but for the life of us we couldn't get the adjusters back up far enough to slide the torsion plates in there, finally I had a bright idea, switched the bars and adjusters to the opposite side and it worked. I told them to just take it off at that point, knowing we can get it back in, and leave the truck in the shop overnight, and I'll hopefully get a solution to the problems. So after a ride home from a friend, I'm here.

So here's the questions...

When we finally attempted the flip (after the screwing around of taking the bars out), did it not work because as it resulted in the bars being in the wrong sides? It kept slamming to the wheels which obviously made the truck, well, not going anywhere, but seeing as we had the wrong bars on each side, could the flip now be somewhat possible?

I read up on people saying this is an easy thing, and I'll admit after screwing with the truck all day, it very well is. I have the 2/3 arm puller, and there's no timelimit or fee to return in, so I got some time.

Any insight on this would be awesome... TAS, maybe you could toss me some tips of your flip.

So yes, as of right now, truck is on jackstands, sucks. :[

 

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Any ideas? =[

 

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Okay, I'm in need of some dire help, this almost belongs in the 911 forum since my truck has been on jacks for the last 2 days, but this would get more exposure by the guys who've done this before.

We tried again today, finally got a bigger jack (5 ton) and did it at my place. Getting it all off again was easy, using the 2/3 arm puller, simply amazing. Flipped it, jacked the adjuster back up, slid the plate underneath and let the jack down. Then we screwed the torsion bolt back in so it wouldn't sit on the tires again, but instead, it lifted the truck, say, 2" above stock? I have no absolute clue how this happened. Anyways, so we returned it to normal with the bolts out and called it a day again.

I would rather like to leave my crossmember alone and just do it this way. What am I doing wrong? Ted, you're my man on this if anyone, better being your not too far away, I'd love to have a chat with you on the phone if you read this. I've read over the Torsion Flip 101 or whatever on that guys site who first did it, also known as the "gusto" thread.

Anyways, I'm honestly wondering what the hell is going on.

I really do appreciate any and all help, thanks!

 

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From what I know the adjusters go on the end of the bar only two ways, normal, and "flipped". I'm not sure if the bar can fit more than one way on the control arm though(the bars were removed completely by your buds right?).

Seems to me the mounting on the control arm is on the wrong "notch". If there is no position and the head of the bar is symmetrical, then it's gonna have to be trial and error on each turn to see if it's in the right sport.

 

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Yeah, my friends wanted to freak me out.

Well remember, the bars were switched mistakingly, then we found out, and put them back where they belong. The truck is how it was before I even started the project, simply adjuster being normal with the bolts out, still the exact same height, so I know everything is fine. When we flipped the adjuster, it's a direct flip, one notch either way and it wouldn't work at all. I'm just wondering if the screw had anything to do with it. One thing I did notice though, we didn't use any sort of strap or anything to keep the adjuster close to the frame as we tried to slide the plate under the adjuster... this may of have an effect on it, I really don't know.

 

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So, what I'm understanding when you put on the adjuster, it's basically already in place to slide the plate in?

I would say to turn the torsion bar one notch(or however many it takes to fit back in) on the control arm mount so the adjuster is below the plate-slot.

 

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lol, if that was the case, it would take 5 minutes to do everything. We had to jack the adjuster up quite some on a certain point so we could slide the plate in, definately was some elbow grease needed. The adjuster is flopped downward (leaning below level, but with all the indentations facing up, which being "flipped") when flipping it and matches the pictures done by Godfather who first did a writeup on this, but he stopped with the pictures here, and from this point on, something isn't right.

The logic behind all of this is so easy to understand for me and I know what I'm doing, just that I'm totally boggled as to why it's doing this to me.