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OK folks, being off work for a while, I am planning a full brake job, I am looking for seriously better than stock results, so will do disks and pads, and then change to 5.1 fluid.
Now then- whats the best combo, front and rear?
Please let me know what you think if you have upgraded already?
 



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A while ago I changed all mine to Powerslot rotors with Hawk performance pads. The difference was remarkable. Probably why I have been rear-ended some 4 times now. :D
 






So. Following your recent "event", this is your way of putting the brakes on?!!
Nice one H.
 






x2 on the Hawk pads and rotors,
also , stainless braided brake lines would really make a difference as well,
 












YEah, sound like a plan guys- never knew braided made that much diff- the rubber seems not to be pliant or expand- but I guess, even if it does a fraction along its length it would decrease the pressure.
 






Better than stock, huh, find a 2001+ Sport or Sport trac with matching 2WD/4WD to yours. Get the spindles, swap and do the rotors, align the truck. Those are 1" larger than your rotors, and the calipers interchange(keep yours).

I also like the rotors from EBC, and cryogenically frozen versions. I prefer EBC pads, as I've tried them all, and the one set of Hawk pads on my "big" brake truck, lasted less than two months. They were the red race pads which came with the SSBC calipers, my truck ate them while delivering mail.

SS brake lines are nice to have, they should cost about $25 each.
 

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where can i get them brake lines, no one seems to sell them here braided
 






There is at least one franchise in the US which sells the machines that are used to make the lines, and test them. I have a local business here which is a large hydraulic line business. It was natural for them to get a franchise to make the SS lines, they've been doing it here for several years. I don't know how many businesses do it around the country or world.
 












5.1

Not too sure about the reasons for going to 5.1 brake fluid. I've heard it's VERY hydrophilic and not really useful except for racers ( v. high temps ). Anyone have any better info ? BN
 






There are several very good brake fluids, but some are super expensive. Any clean fluid is better than any old fluid.

I've often bought the best available in local stores, but a few times ordered other more expensive brands. I like the ATE fluid for a high end choice, it's not as high, and it comes in 1 liter cans. ATE is a world renowned brake system company.
 






On the fluid just flush as no point in going 5.1 unless you gonna cook your brakes.
On the braided hoses you may be able to get goodridge or hel to make some for the ex given the specs. A bit of reseach on on either might yield results there. I think going braided will make a difference under hard braking but how much over new rubber ones would be hard to judge with the weight of the vehicle and the vacuum assist, tho i know it made a huge difference on my X1/9 years ago but that didn't have vacuum assist.
 






Just to chuck my slice in while you're recuperating, if you Google Aeroquip or Goodridge, you'll find loads of people doing s/s braided hoses and the big difference that while a plain hose might only give a little (and under that sort of pressure, they DO give!) a braided hose wont give at all. All commercial hydraulic hoses are wire-armoured but it's an interlayer, not exposed.

On the fluid, I similarly doubt you'll see much difference with 5.1 fluid. As long as your fluid is fresh and in good condition, it's fine. What happens is over time, it absorbs water and under hard or prolonged brakikng, that water content boils. Now while you can't compress water ot oil, you most certainly can compress steam and that's why your brakes disappear when you stamp hard on old fluid. The reason I say there's not much point in changing up is that obviously any water content will still boil out at 100C, whatever your fluid is rated for!

The other thing just in case you don't know (and I bet you do) is if you do change, make sure it's 5.1 and not 5. Silicone fluid doesn't mix with others and if you want to (or have used it), it means a complete system change and flush because the mixture will make all your flexibles swell. Nice under the right circumstances but not in your truck because you'll probably find out when you hit the brakes and they won't let go!

Keep getting better mate!

JC
 






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