Discussion in 'Modified 2011- 2019 Explorer Sport Tuning' started by zackcrazy, November 3, 2012.
I'm really nervous about re programming. Warranty and all
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I am from NYC,most of my life in NJ, now in NC
Depends on whether you can remove the tune before service
this may help you understand also the liabilities.
what part of NC?
I know about that case, but I have heard that Ford has some sort of "blackbox" that records any and all changes. So I hear you about changing stuff back before service but if they have a way to tell, say I blew my engine with a tuner plugged in.????
all companies can track what the engine was going before it blew but they would have to prove the what and the how of cause. then directly prove your mod caused the failure
I'm talking about im-prints from programmers. "The magg-mos act will not stand up on a tuned motor warranty void. Ford specifically stated that would void the warranty in the owners manual."
So, putting a tuner on right away is pressing your luck, they will know it was there and then once they void the warranty I would have to fight fight fight to prove it didn't cause the damage, but it most likely will have caused it. Just not worth it to me, until warranty expires.
I believe they have the burden of proof before they can do that
any updates on 0-60 times?
Good question and good timing. I just got back in from doing some runs.
1/4 tank of 94 octane, no passengers.
35 degrees and the roads were dry.
Previous runs on 91 octane with the Gtech timing device were around 5.7 seconds and a best of 5.59 which I dismissed as it was the low run and not repeated.
Tonight was better again....
Started out with a 5.67 which was good and then a couple of 6.0 that had me wondering what was going on. I drove around for a while and came back to my usual spot to try again. Thats when I found a good launch rpm at 2000 rpm and things started getting interesting.
I has a few runs in the 5.35 to 5.45 range and a low run of 5.2 seconds. My personal conclusion is 5.4 seconds would be a good number to stick to.
awsome numbers..after seeing them I am more anxious for mine to arrive
Getting pretty close to those Jeep SRT8 and you can sit 3 more people
what was the temp on your 91 run? just curious, temperatures affect turbo motors more drastically than naturally aspirated. half a second from 2 octane is not normal.
91 octane, 40 degrees - 5.7 sec average
94 octane, 35 degrees - 5.4 sec average
But you don't think 1/2 a second from anything is normal.
I had a question earlier about the temperatures when running so I went out again tonite as it was warmer than last nite.
1/4 tank 94 octane
45 degrees 77% humidity
No passengers, Gtech gps timer
Best runs were
and a 5.5 with a 14.12 1/4 mile at 97 mph
that is awesomeness....
I hope mine runs as good
he stated best of 5.59 with 91 and best of 5.2 with 94. i had a hunch that it was cooler with the 94 run. there is NO WAY you are shaving .4 seconds with 3 octane. combine 3 octane and 5 degrees and wallah!! i have built and hobbied with turbo cars since my second car ever at 18, a 1987 toyo supra turbo, then a 93 supra turbo, a grand national and several turbo diesel trucks. i have built, modified, researched, studied, learned, and raced a tremendous amount in those 17 years.
you obviously dont understand how hard it is to squeeze a half second from a vehicle. but nice try, thanks for the comment.
Those are great numbers and thanks for keeping us updated. I expect nothing less from mine in a few days. And once I add the intake and exhaust and shave a 1/2 second (it is that easy) I'll let you know my times.
There re some other factors here: engine break in, tires getting some wear and grip.
Regardless of how those are great numbers
Absolutely great numbers. Makes me wish I had two little compressors spinning under my hood. Well my wife's hood!
Really? Are you trying to be a d!@k? I have never stated you can't achieve those gains with bolt ons. I was simply completely discrediting you on your statement that .5 seconds can be gained by 2 or 3 octane. Which was easy to do because you have no idea what you are talking about!
You have been disagreeing with everything I have said or said, even with some of it to even fall true. You can go back and re read this entire thread. The things I have said in another thread helped the OP shave some time (about 1/2 second) with fuel upgrade and weight reduction. I then stated another 1/2 second could be achieved with 30 plus HP gain and practice with the vehicle (reaction and rpm launches). We have been talking about bolt ons in this thread so you know, it has been a big topic. You even brought up programmers.
Instead of saying I have no idea what I'm talking and discrediting me every chance you get, you could just thank the OP for his time and say It will be tough to shave another 1/2 second.
Thanks again to the OP and I'm done with EW now.