Putinbay - Good luck getting that price,I would have thought you read the fine print better before throwing you're yet again misinformed post. I just contacted Koons from their website, got a call right back (now I'll get calls all week). Per the fine print on their website, they add back freight $1195 (per them) and a $795 processing fee and at their WOW price you must finance the vehicle through their lender, they would not confirm the conditions of the loan over the phone? On a $59,125 sticker ST, I was quoted an out of state buyer price, including freight ($1195 per them) and their fore mentioned processing fee ($795) an out the door price of $52,253 before taxes, tags for an 11.6% price reduction. That's a great price for an ST, slightly better than my local dealer even if they used the $750 select inventory rebate on older units. FWIW - I received 10% off the sticker on my ST back in Sept. 19'. The Explorer rebates have been fluctuating slightly over the last 3 months, ticking up surprisingly towards the end of each month and were recently more aggressive at the end of October 19' on XLT's & Limited's but less on ST's & Plat's. Being the ST's are selling so well (1/3 of all Explorer sales), I expect Ford to follow a similar rebate philosophy they use on their F150's whereas they give the much larger rebates on the XL & XLT's and even Lariats F150's (volume units) than offer much less in rebates on their premium (Platinum, KR, etc.) F150 models. Thus, I expect to see less in rebates on the Explorer ST & Plat's vs. the XLT's & Limited model Explorers. I love my ST, no issues in 1700 miles, 400/415 all day every day, so happy to be an early adopter...