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11 month old rebuilt starter died: Considering just going brand new this time, worth it?

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Yes! I agree

I buy many parts from brick mortar stores due to lifetime warranty. Then I keep track of the vehicle the part and the date so I remember they are under warranty! (Whiteboard in the shop) Great for wheel bearings brake parts starters etc!!
Personally, I'd go for the warranty. There is not much to a starter to go wrong. It may need brushes or bearings. Mostly cleaning. Sometimes its the copper bolt the bendix makes contact with inside the starter to turn it on. They are not difficult to replace next year and you've already paid for another one.

Truth is the brand new one you buy will likely be rebuilt too.
 



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Yes! I agree

I buy many parts from brick mortar stores due to lifetime warranty. Then I keep track of the vehicle the part and the date so I remember they are under warranty! (Whiteboard in the shop) Great for wheel bearings brake parts starters etc!!

I'd say a spare battery is likely worth keeping too in the truck if it wasn't for it discharging over time
 






Yeah, I tend to replace parts that will leave me stranded on the early side.

People don’t want to spend money, believe me I get that, but you have to factor in the things you mentioned. Getting stuck, missing work, paying for a tow, being at the mercy of the parts counter guy and his prices. And, in extreme environments like the great white north, it could leave your life in jeopardy

Is it worth it just to get a little more mileage out of a part?

One example. My SOHC made it to 215,000mi without a fuel pump issue. Ran great. But I ‘played the tape forward’ and thought about what would happen if I lost the pump at 3am on I-95 with a full tank and limited tools. I swapped in a Motorcraft pump at a great price, in my heated shop, on my time. And then I didn’t have to worry about it for another 200k. Around 400k, I’ll probably do it again.

Maybe I would’ve gotten another 15k, or even 50k. But if you extrapolate the cost of the part over that mileage, what would I potentially be saving by driving until it fails? $10? $20?

That all gets wiped out ten-fold once the flatbed arrives.

This logic all goes out the window if your Ex is a grocery getter, or strictly around town, or a secondary/tertiary vehicle. But if it’s a daily driver and especially if you take it on road trips? Scheduled, proactive maintenance is what keeps these things reliable.

Edit: I also do what @410Fortune does. I have a whiteboard with all of my big scheduled maintenance listed—the mileage/dates at which they are due. I also keep a spreadsheet for each truck that goes deep into the weeds. That way, I can look back and see when I replaced a part, what I used, what the warranty is, when it is due for next replacement or inspection, etc.

I believe my fuel pump is still stock. How long do they last on these trucks? Is it an expensive part? Maybe i should buy a fuel pump from auto and have it installed as soon as I see my current one showing signs of going bad.
And I'm guessing youre stranded if the fuel pump goes bad? I'm wondering if I should replace mine as an early replacement

I've been stranded and towed 3 times in the 12 months, that's way too often IMO. First the stock starter died, then the stock alternator died and then the rebuilt starter died. Each time it made for things to be extremely inconvenient. I'm lucky my mechanic isn't far from me and he does his best to get the truck back to me asap. But being stranded is a pain especially when you have to be somewhere and it's costly.

Looking back this makes me glad that I replaced my water pump just over 2 years ago when I had the motor opened up, even though I only had 80K km on the pump at that time.
 






Rock Auto pays the return shipping on actual warranties and then issues a credit once they verify the issue. Not the same as buying local and getting same day service, though.

The '94 Explorer I owned from Nov '08 to March '14 would go through a rebuilt starter every 10-11 months. They'd work just fine until they didn't with no warning. O'Reilly's replaced the first 4, if IIRC, then told me that I had to buy a new, not rebuilt, one the next time. Fortunately, they all failed in places where I could easily change them. I got so I could swap them in about 10 minutes (OHV, not SOHC). I had to install the last one (the new one) in a McDonald's parking lot when it was either +10F or -10F. I don't remember which, but it was cold! That one lasted 14 months or so until the fan disintegrated and cooked the engine.

Regarding rebuilding parts - a friend and I had gone to Waterloo, Ia on a Friday night for a Saturday car show back in the early '80s when the generator on his '68 Falcon quit. He took it off and we went looking for a replacement or someone to fix it. Found a salesman at a Dodge dealership who told us the shop wasn't open, but some of the mechanics were there working on their own stuff. They pointed us to a guy who's right arm was amputated below his elbow. He had the generator apart, changed the brushes, and had it back together in 10 minutes. He was amazing! Didn't charge us, either.
 












I'd say a spare battery is likely worth keeping too in the truck if it wasn't for it discharging over time
Do not keep a spare battery. You’re better off having a jumper pack. Batteries degrade over time, and the warranty starts ticking the second you buy it. Plus, as you mentioned, you’d have to keep it charged.

I don’t venture away from other motorists, so I just bring cables.

Yesterday my truck started cranking slow. Battery is 4 years old. Got it started, drive straight to an auto parts place, replaced it in the lot.

If the fuel pump quits, you’re dead in the water. If your truck is on the original pump north of 200k, I’d come up with a plan. That plan may be cutting an access panel and keeping a pump and tools in your truck. Or it may be replacing it early.
 






Starters do blow up with no warning, can confirm. It would spin, but it wouldn't grab, after starting fine for 19 years and 170k-ish miles.

I didn't have much trouble changing the starter on the SOHC, just using common tools. Didn't even need to take it off the ground (was skinnier then!).

Fuel pumps can go intermittent rather than full stop, but that's too much failure for me! If you rely on your vehicle, preventive maintenance is not optional.

Agreed on not buying a battery before you need it, jumper cables are cheap, and jumper boxes (not a fan, personally) are easy to get these days, just remember to keep 'em charged.
 






The problem with the sohc engine and auto trans is getting the dang starter out of the hole! If you disco the wiring and the. Rotate it around umpteen ways it will drop out of there but still it’s a huge pita. The ohv is better… 5.0 is waaaaay easier.
When 4x4ing w an automatic trans it is a great idea to bring spare starter. Because I had one with me we have been able to save other trucks instead of leaving them on the trail… so the spares are good to carry even when they end up being for somebody else in the group. I cut an access panel for my fuel pump.. I can change the pump in 20 minutes on the trail 100 miles from nowhere… and I carry a lithium ion jumper
Box that is always charged, it is one of my most used tools in the shop. Mine is made by jumptop on amazon about $125 has been working great for about two years. Around Christmas Costco sells a similar unit for like $50. Harbor freight also sells some but I don’t trust them as much as the good ones with 5 star reviews. The key is keeping them charged (every six month if they sit in the car)
 






Do not keep a spare battery. You’re better off having a jumper pack. Batteries degrade over time, and the warranty starts ticking the second you buy it. Plus, as you mentioned, you’d have to keep it charged.

I don’t venture away from other motorists, so I just bring cables.

Yesterday my truck started cranking slow. Battery is 4 years old. Got it started, drive straight to an auto parts place, replaced it in the lot.

If the fuel pump quits, you’re dead in the water. If your truck is on the original pump north of 200k, I’d come up with a plan. That plan may be cutting an access panel and keeping a pump and tools in your truck. Or it may be replacing it early.

I may consider replacing the fuel pump. The one now is still original with 253k km on it. From the looks of it, it's a big job, won't be cheap.

I have a Li Ion jumper pack that can boost. I know you can get cheaper lead acid booster packs but if you have to keep the battery charged all the time, what's the point. Li Ion was the way to go despite being more money for the same power.
 






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