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1991 Explore wont start

daveman66

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Not sure if im in the right spot to post this but here goes
1991 Explorer V-6 was driving to the river over the weekend and truck shut off in the middle of the road had towed home
Found unit will crank but will not start any help will be appericated
I Love my Explorer and wanna get it running again Help Please
 



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do you have fuel? do you have spark?
 






Tested last night cranked over found spark repeated this step several times pulled spark plug and it was dry no fuel on it
 






Sounds like your fuel pump... shut off all accessaries and see if you can hear the pump come on when you turn the key to run.. The pump will only come on for 1-2 secs and then go off if you don't crank the engine (it will stay on the entire time the engine is running). You can also check the fuel pump fuse, and inertia switch located under the glove box behind the carpet.
 






Maybe fuel filter can be clogged. If its not been changed..change it.
 






Also check to see if your problem could be caused by the fuel pump relay. Look in your power distribution box in the engine compartment and there should be a diagram inside the cover. Pull the fuel relay and swap it with one of the others there. Try to start and listen for the fuel pump. If you hear the pump and the X starts, get new relays.
 






Fuel pump relay is where to start. Also, check the PCM relay. If you switch the 2, it may still not start. When you turn the key to 'on', you should hear the fuel pump prime for a second or 2. If not, check the relays.
 






OK will be checking fuel system tonight Thanks Guys
Dave
 






OK here is what i did last night turned key on did not hear fuel pump relay kick in so i went to fuse panel under hood pulled the large fuse for fuel pump with key on reinstalled fuse still did not hear relay kick in lifted fuse panel pulled the relay block up and noticed the fuel pump relay was blue the rest were black (sound like it has been changed once already) i was not sure which relay was for the A/C system so i did not swap
 






:eek: Ok at one point i read you could swap the fuel pump relay with the A/C relay as they were both the same part
My delima here is i have no idea which relay is for the A/C :eek:
 






Hi,
First - if you have the owner manual, it may show you which relay is where. If not, look on the underside of the cover you pull up to see the relays - mine has a label showing which relay is for which circuit. I have a 1994 explorer - same basic body style as yours. On mine, the A/C relay is right in back of the Fuel Pump relay. They are the last two relays in the back right side of the relay box with the A/C relay being the one in the back behind the Fuel Pump Relay.
If you want to be sure of which relay is the right one - turn the ignition to ON and turn on the AC. Even with the engine off, the AC pump clutch will be engaged and you'll hear the loud click as it engages. Now pull the relay directly behind the fuel pump relay (if you still aren't sure which one it is - start at the back right corner and pull that relay (it's probably the A/C relay). If you pull the correct one, you'll hear a loud click as the AC pump clutch disengages. Now, pull the relay right in front of the one you just pulled out - compare the pins to be sure they have the same pins in the same positions and see if you can find the part number on the relays and compare them to each other (Mark the A/C relay - it's easy to forget which is which) and then TURN OFF THE IGNITION NOW, then plug the A/C relay into the place where the Fuel Pump Relay goes. Leave the passenger door open - make sure it's quiet around you as much as possible and turn the key to on (not start). You should hear a noise that sounds like a quiet buzzer and it only lasts a few seconds. If you hear it - try to start the truck. If it starts - go to the local parts store and buy a new Fuel Pump Relay. For some reason, these are a common failure issue - maybe because they are on the entire time the truck runs - but in any case, put the new one in where the Fuel Pump Relay was - and put the A/C relay back where it was.
If the relay doesn't fix your problem. you either have a bad computer the expensive one), bad wiring/connections or a failed fuel pump. If you went over a hard bump when this happened or you had a passenger in the passenger seat - you should check the fuel safety switch to make sure it didn't trip. To get to it, pull the carpet down to expose the metal floor pan - it's located about 18" down right next to the hump under the carpet. it has a two wire connection going to it. If it's tripped, your fuel pump won't run. You push a button on it in to reset it. It normally takes a hard bump or a passenger that thinks they have a brake pedal and don't like your driving in order to trip it - but it's happened to others before so look there.
You can also get a tester at the parts store and it will help narrow down why you don't have fuel pressure. It won't tell you exactly what is wrong, but it will help. If you get one, make sure you get one made for your year of Ford and read the first few pages of the manual so you can tell what the blinking light means and how to use the device.
My guess (and this is only a guess) is your fuel pump failed. Don't change it based on my guess - it's expensive and you could have a bad relay. The relays fail more often than the pumps do.

Anyone else have input or corrections to what I wrote?
 






Dennis thanks for your input i will be swapping relays this weekend and see what happens
Dave
 






I have 1 thing to add to what Dennis said. if the process he describes for switching the A/C and fuel pump relays fails, try swapping the A/C and EEC relays. I recently had an intermittent starting problem that turned out to be a bad EEC relay. I didn't discover the real problem until after I changed the fuel filter, fuel pump, and pump relay. Good luck
 






Quote from the " Lemon Aid " Book ,from the "secret warranties/service tips " sections for 91 Explorers.." Hard starts or no starts from a cold eng may be caused by a loss of electrical continuity between ignition contacts or sludge in the throttlebody and/or idle by-pass valve . Install an idle air by-pass service kit (#F2PZ-9F939-A) " This Book is Canadian and the part number may not be the same ...Good luck.
 






Just a quick note on swapping the relays on a '91. I have a 1991 EB and the three relays under the fuse box are 'keyed' differently and cannot be swapped. ;)
 






EEC Relay and fuse?

94bauer said:
I have 1 thing to add to what Dennis said. if the process he describes for switching the A/C and fuel pump relays fails, try swapping the A/C and EEC relays. I recently had an intermittent starting problem that turned out to be a bad EEC relay. I didn't discover the real problem until after I changed the fuel filter, fuel pump, and pump relay. Good luck
Does a 1998 Bronco have these and if they do, could someone tell me where to look? There is no owners manual and this book doesn't show it.
 






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