2012 fuel filler neck hose

[nadorp]

Hey guys,
I am replacing my fuel filler neck on my 2012 XLT. I took out the old rusty one and the hose to tank needs replaced. The new neck doesn't come with one and I cannot find one. Has anyone run into this? Where can I find a new hose??
Thanks!

 

[J_C]

The diagram I have for a '14, makes it look like that's just a straight piece of hose. Is it the same for yours?

If so, I'd get the diameters at both ends and see if some place like Rock Auto has something that'll fit. They have a few with bends as well.
Don't forget clamps if they're rusted too...

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[nadorp]

Thanks J_C!
Your pic is correct. My hose has 2 bends. The Clamp on the end attached to the filler neck was a solid metal ring I had to cut off. The hose is cracked inside and couldn't be seen until removed. If I use a straight tube and bend to fit, what are the chances it would collapse?

 

[J_C]

Your pictured hose has a far greater bend than the diagram I posted suggests! The smaller bend shouldn't be a problem (just a little grunt sound when installing it ) but the larger is too much.

Where is the larger bend, about where #4 is in the pic or #5?

Some of those hoses I linked on Rock Auto have a 90' or 45' bend, might one of those work if the length past the bend is long enough, I mean you'd cut it after the bend to fit?

I wouldn't try to bend a straight piece of hose enough to replicate the bend in what you have pictured because yes it would likely collapse, but if you really HAVE to, you could get a hose coupler to join two hoses together to make something work. If there is enough clearance, you might still be able to make a straight piece bend enough, but it would have to be a longer piece with a more gradual bend, if there is room to do that which there may not be.

I mean there is bound to be something out there, for some vehicle, that has the right diameter and at least enough length with a close enough bend angle to work, but the question is how long to search for that. You could contact a place like the following or seek more similar filler hose sellers too.

Fuel Filler Hoses and Couplers

Tanks, Inc. manufactures fuel system components and polyethylene, steel and stainless steel gas tanks for street rods and special interest vehicles.

www.tanksinc.com

 

[nadorp]

The sharp bend is by #4

 

[J_C]

Previously I'd checked a Ford parts dealer 'site and they don't even picture the hose or give a part #. Even so you might call a local dealer to see what they say... they should have some kind of solution considering 5th gen went through '19 so there should (have been) parts support for vehicles this recent.

Their crude diagrams always make me wonder, wouldn't it have been easier to just take a picture of the actual part instead of getting a 6th grader to draw it, lol.

 

[nadorp]

Previously I'd checked a Ford parts dealer 'site and they don't even picture the hose or give a part #. Even so you might call a local dealer to see what they say... they should have some kind of solution considering 5th gen went through '19 so there should (have been) parts support for vehicles this recent.

Their crude diagrams always make me wonder, wouldn't it have been easier to just take a picture of the actual part instead of getting a 6th grader to draw it, lol.

Agreed! Thanks J_C

 

[nadorp]

Agreed! Thanks J_C

Here's a pic of the hose after I cleaned it enough to read it. Does any of this make any sense? Not sure if that's a part number or any pertinent info?

 

[J_C]

I see no pic?

 

[nadorp]

Here's a pic of the hose after I cleaned it enough to read it. Does any of this make any sense? Not sure if that's a part number or any pertinent info?

 

[J_C]

No, I had hopes for 55-8125 hose but got no search hits on that. There are other hose shapes for other vehicles with 55-8125 on them.

 

[nadorp]

I am lost. Not sure what to do. They sell the filler tubes, I have to think I'm not the only one to go through this.

 

[peterk9]

I am lost. Not sure what to do. They sell the filler tubes, I have to think I'm not the only one to go through this.

Have you talked to your dealer's parts department about this?

Peter

 

[J_C]

If a dealer can't help, then get back to basics...

1) Inner diameter in inches - check both ends, but account for any stretching when it was installed.

2) Length of short end after the 90'-ish bend

3) Length of longer end after the 90'-ish bend

4) What is the approx. degrees of the lesser bend?

Suppose your answers were:
1) 2" ID both ends
2) 4"
3) 10"
4) 30'

In that case, you could "probably" use these 3 parts, cutting off the extra you don't need:

8" 30' bend - 30 Degree Fuel Filler Connection Hose
6x6" 90' bend - 2" ID x 90 Degree Fuel Filler Hose
2" coupler - 2" OD Fuel Filler Hose Coupler

If you can find an area to mount straps to secure it, then another option might (or might not, I don't know how sharp a bend is needed to fit in the available space on the vehicle, nor how sharply this flexible hose can bend) be a couple feet (and cut off excess) of flexible fuel line like this, "IF" yours is 2" as per the example above, except they happen to be out of stock of this particular example but other places carry it too:

2" ID Flexible Fuel Hose

Tanks, Inc. manufactures fuel system components and polyethylene, steel and stainless steel gas tanks for street rods and special interest vehicles.

www.tanksinc.com

Notice that they recommend double-clamping the flexible fuel hose.

Here is a place with much longer pieces, of the rigid hose with bends molded in, and if you provided the info above in #1 thru #4 to them, and that first picture in this topic (20241002_214648-jpg), they might be able to advise what combo of parts that they sell which would work:

2" Inch (HARD FLEX) Rubber Gas Tank - Fuel Filler Hose (3ft)

Filler Neck Supply Co. Stocks The Most Fuel Filler Pipe and Hose Parts Available. Secure Shopping Cart. Order Online And Save. 1-2 Day Shipping Available.

www.fillernecksupply.com

 

[J_C]

One other bit of info I found was that the filler hose appears to have changed for 2013 and up, and that part is a straight hose that won't work: DA8Z9047A

The 2012 hose does not appear to exist as a separate part #. I'm starting to wonder if the metal filler neck part # is supposed to come with the hose too. I also checked Dorman who offers the straight hose for 2013+ but not 2012.

Anyone know why they changed it from '12 to '13? Is the passage for it different on the vehicle, or the tank different, or just the filler neck and if just the filler neck, might someone with a pre-'13 be able to use a '13+ filler neck and a straight hose if the '12 hose is unobtainable?

I still think something can be pieced together but it would be nicer to have a single drop in part.

 

[nadorp]

It is a real conundrum. I was thinking maybe looking at radiator hoses to see if anything is close.

 

[J_C]

I doubt you're more likely to find a radiator hose that would work, instead of a filler tube hose for another vehicle. Plus most radiator hoses are not fuel rated. The hose you pulled is marked NBR, nitrile butadiene (synthetic) rubber, which is specifically good at gasoline resistance, while *most* radiator hoses are EPDM which has poor gasoline resistance, and even the silicone radiator hoses are porous to gasoline.

 

[peterk9]

It is a real conundrum. I was thinking maybe looking at radiator hoses to see if anything is close.

Did you check with your dealership?

Peter

 

[nadorp]

I doubt you're more likely to find a radiator hose that would work, instead of a filler tube hose for another vehicle. Plus most radiator hoses are not fuel rated. The hose you pulled is marked NBR, nitrile butadiene (synthetic) rubber, which is specifically good at gasoline resistance, while *most* radiator hoses are EPDM which has poor gasoline resistance, and even the silicone radiator hoses are porous to gasoline.

Good info, Thanks!

 

[peterk9]

Good info, Thanks!

Is there a reason why you refuse to answer the question about asking the dealer? That would have been the first place I would have checked. Also, Benny at Levittown Ford may be able to help.

Peter