3rd gen vs. 4th gen race... so sad...

[shadowless127]

lol lucky you!!..and the 5.4L 4v dohc supercharged motor is indeed forsale at jegs.com...like one of these!! http://www.jegs.com/p/Ford+Racing/1167174/10002/-1

here is THE gt-500 engine http://www.jegs.com/p/Ford+Racing/1030965/10002/-1

lol if only i had 20 grand ^.^

I agree shadow, here in alaska a vehicle that doesnt have 4x4 or awd is almost worthless as a daily driver(dont know how my friend lasted with his lightning for so long)..my old landlord bought a brand new lightning in 04..sold in 6 months later because he couldnt stand to just have it sit...i got to ride in a Harly 150 awhile back...VERY nice...very nice indeed...

have you guys seen the Foose F150's rolling around? the one at my local ford dealer had 585 rwhp!! and the sickest body kit ive ever seen on a pick up...did 0-60 in less 4.5 seconds...scary stuff.

I'm a fan of the Rousch and Saleen F150's

Indeed off topic, but still a fun topic none the less.

Of course Camaros were underrated.. I watched a C&D video on youtube of a guy introducing the (then) new 2000 camaro z28 and saying how it had the corvettes LS1 but dropped by 50hp... Then at the end of the video the camaro and the corvette are supposed to take off towards the camera and then off into the sunset and the camaro ends up almost a car-length ahead after a couple seconds.

I plan on getting a 1998 or 2000 Camaro Z28 and fixing it up like mad.

On the topic of lightnings:

My friend has a 5.4L 2000 F-150 with the towing package which makes it a lightning minus supercharger plus supercab and big bed. He is going to get a whipple 3.2L supercharger, lightnings intercooler and intake manifold.. The F250/lightnings tranny rebult.. and should be pulling no less than 700hp when all is said and done.. and this is his daily driver.. it has over 120k miles so he is rebuilding it and boring it out maybe 0.001 inches... oh and running something like 27lbs of boost for the track (maybe 14lbs for daily driving).

Fords good at making cars with tons of potential.. they just dont ever release that potential.. but a new era will come and ford will dominate!

SVT should start slapping their logo on everything from ford crown vics to F-350 superduty... (and sploders of course) limited production and reasonable prices mean that people WILL by and that it wont cost them too much.. I think.

My dream car is either an 03/04 cobra or a 2000-2002 Trans Am WS6, red w/ T's .

i agree...ford should have an SVT option for all of their vehicles...like chevy and their SS badges that just get thrown on anthing and everything...i hope your friend is going to get a build short block to run 14 psi daily...and 27 psi? thats going to NEED a built motor...if he plans on it lasting more than a couple weeks...(my friends lightning lasted only 4 years at only 550 horse power at 11 psi...and racing only on weekends at the track.

And SVT explorer would need the Adrenaline front end...and Out the side duel exhaust...that would be the pinnacle of explorer bad assedness.

The SS badging is a joke for most models except the TB. The SS impala is a friggin FWD car, as is the Monte SS (which is just a joke to begin with). The SS Silverado was just lowered, 2wd or AWD with the Vortec Max 6000 out of the Denali/Escalade. Cobalt SS, well, let's not go there.

You can build a 400rwhp stroker 302 for around $4000(longblock). What does an LS engine cost making the 345hp? That's a fair fight, they are both pushrod engines, even though the LS has aluminum block, forged crank, and in some, titanium rods. The LS does so well because of the high dollar OEM parts in it.

If Ford had built 400rwhp 96+ Mustangs with a 302 option, no one would have bought the 4.6 OHC engines. Ford is really bad at putting out a performance car. Below is a car dyno of a 332 in a 91 Mustang, T-5 trans.

The thing that I like about the LS series engines is that the parts are very interchangable and you can get A LOT of N/A power without having to bore/stroke the engine.

That being said, by this time next year I should have a 92-93 Mustang LX/GT 5.0. Will be doing a 347 stroker. Goal is going to be 400rwhp N/A. I <3 302's

 

[zerodevil]

that is a very impressive dyno run...god id love to have a powerband like that in my X.

 

[slyfoxexplore]

Any one seen one with a pro charger? I looking into it but dont know if engine would hold up stock.

 

[CDW6212R]

You mean 331? Either way that's good power in a fox body. Also I am guessing that's supercharged because that torque starts off pretty strong and stays fairly flat. If it's N/A then that's one heck of a little motor. My Ex will someday read like that

That was a 332, the math is 332, not 331. It's a NA, carbureted engine, Victor Junior I think it was. With a custom cam and high port type heads, that HP/CI is not hard at all. I have those same Canfield heads on my 347, but my rpm isn't for 6500, but 5500 or so. That 332 had over 10:1 compression also, under that you leave HP on the table(stock Ford engines).

Browse on the SBFtech forum when you get interested. The engine builder and cam designer own and run that site. Don't go there with opinions unless they are correct. They eat myths and don't put up with the BS that the Corral is full of. Go there for truth and horsepower.

Here's a link to one of his threads, just getting it running with the new heads and cam last year. He sold it not too long ago, and regrets it. http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,13983.0.html

 

[slyfoxexplore]

what you running cam and compresion wise on your 347?

 

[zerodevil]

that was an N/A powerband? that is freaking amazing...i mean holy ****...id love to get that torque band...wow, i think ill have to pay this guy a visit for some tips...thanks for the link cd.

 

[CDW6212R]

I asked before hand to be able to run mild boost, I have 9.65:1 compression. The camshaft is custom and made for the Canfield heads and the truck. I asked for a shift point near 5500rpm, it may end up very close to 6000rpm. My torque peak will be 3700, notice that the engine above is a lot higher than that. He could have stretched his top end a lot with a Super Victor intake and bigger carburetor. You can do that with a light car and/or manual transmission. It's a whole lot harder to get an automatic to work with that in a heavy vehicle. I'm planning to be able to tow or anything else an SUV is for.

 

[Xenowolf]

My friend looked into it all, he is getting everything rebuilt and replaced... all the internals.. He's one of those people who does -tons- of research.. He wouldnt have the idea unless he deemed it possible via research.. Believe me I'm as skeptical as you about the 27ish psi boost.. but if it happens he will smoke EVERYTHING in a work truck.. which would be impressive to watch.

 

[CDW6212R]

I hope that he picks the brains of others who have the same engine, and engine and camshaft builders/makers. The real magic is in the heads, cam, and valvetrain. Don't skimp on those parts, or mix and match. Don't begin with what ever you happen to have and plan to change as you go. The valvetrain is extremely important for a pushrod engine. Done poorly the engine will be a dog, done right and it will sing.
The key is to find real experts in those areas for that particular engine, and let them steer you to the proper selections.