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lynnboy021

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all 3 new bands all new OD new pump and new TC. i torque the bands to 10ft lbs and then two turns back but i am only getting a 2ed to 3rd gear slip only on upshift oh new servos to. maybe i need to tight the band up alittle more cuz when it slips, the rpm only goes up 1/2 rpm then it shifts so its not like before it would go to like 4 or 5 rpm to shift... thanks one last thing fluid is new i put one qt in the tc and then 12 qts in the tranny drove around for like 10 mins then made sure the truck was level and let the fluid drain out and it came out like 2qts does that sound right?????
 



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I'm a little clueless, but curious. Are you tightening the bands yourself? Can you do this while the tranny is mounted? Sounds like you've got the correct level. One thing I noticed on this forum is I have not seem anyone who says the use Mercon VI. I put it in everything. It's full synthetic. Might help prevent some of these ongoing tranny problems. Then again, might not....
 






Disconnect the battery and then go drive it easy for a couplke of miles to make the pcm relearn transmission strategy. Usually when the bands break or servo pistons it usually results in harsh shifts after repair though.
 






swetrid will something happen to the tranny from it slipping? i had the tranny shop bore and sleave the servos and i went to ford to buy the new servo piston. today i rechecked my work on the bands and it was to spec went for test drive and still the same thing. how long do i have to drive the tranny for????
 






Ford has tsb for servo bore repair and includes more then what they did. They make some valvebody mods so i would ask them about that.
 






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09-12-12 5R55S/5R55N/5R55W TRANSMISSIONS - SHIFT CONCERNS, LOSS OF 2ND, 3RD AND 5TH GEAR, INCORRECT RATIO DTC'S - PROCEDURE TO INSPECT AND REPAIR SERVO PIN BORE WEAR

Publication Date: June 11, 2009

FORD: 2002-2005 Thunderbird
2005-2009 Mustang
2002-2009 Explorer
2007-2009 Explorer Sport Trac
LINCOLN: 2002-2006 Lincoln LS
2003-2005 Aviator
MERCURY: 2002-2009 Mountaineer


ISSUE:
Some 2002-2009 Explorer, Mountaineer, 2007-2009 Explorer Sport Trac, 2002-2006 Lincoln LS, 2005-2009 Mustang, 2002-2005 Thunderbird and 2003-2005 Aviator vehicles equipped with a 5R55S, 5R55W, and 5R55N transmission may experience shifting concerns. A loss of 2nd, 3rd and 5th gear, may have overdrive band or intermediate band failures due to servo pin case bore wear causing reduced apply pressure.

ACTION:
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

For transmissions that have been determined to require an overhaul or rebuild and the overdrive band or intermediate band have excessive wear or burned/damaged band friction material, the cause maybe excessive servo pin case bore wear generally found on higher mileage vehicles, usually accompanied with incorrect ratio diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs), condition becomes worse when hot. (Figure 1)


Figure 1 - Article 09-12-12



In our instructions, when we refer to the overdrive bore, we are talking about the smaller bore located closest to the bell housing. When we refer to the intermediate bore, we are talking about the larger bore located next to the line pressure tap.

Inspect and repair the worn-damaged transmission case servo pin bore utilizing the Rotunda Tool 5RW Master Kit part number NRL5RW servo pin bore repair system (1-800-768-8632 option 6).

Install the drill jig into the case by setting the jig into the case servo bore. Retain the jig in the case with the servo's snap-ring. (Figure 2)


Figure 2 - Article 09-12-12


Drop the 9/16" guide into the jig. It doesn't matter which one of the lands on the guide you use, as long as one of the lands is under the 3/8" Allen screw.
NOTE: CUTTING OIL MUST BE USED FOR LUBRICATION. THE USE OF SUBSTITUTES, PARTICULARLY ATF, MAY RESULT IN AN OVER-SIZED BORE.



Ream out the bore using the 9/16" reamer, applying ample lubrication.
NOTE: DO NOT REAM ABOVE 500 RPM. (Figure 3)





Figure 3 - Article 09-12-12



Replace the 9/16" reamer guide with the 5/8" guide, and the 9/16" reamer with the 5/8" reamer.
Ream the bore out using the 5/8" reamer with ample lubrication. Take care not to either push too hard on the reamer or turn the reamer faster than 500 RPM when reaming. Either one can overly enlarge the bore, causing a loose bushing.
Clean the case before proceeding to Step 7. This kit utilizes two different bushings.
The shorter bushing is for the intermediate servo and is identified by a flat ground in the bushing's hat. (Figure 4A)
Overdrive servo bushing. (Figure 4B)


Figure 4 - Article 09-12-12


Both bushings are chamfered and need to be installed with the recessed edge up (away from the valve body).

Apply Loctite® 680 Retaining Compound or equivalent to the outside of the bushing and drive the bushing in by hitting the driver until the bushing bottoms. (Figure 5) The 5RW kit uses a smaller diameter installation tool identified by a groove cut in the handle.


Figure 5 - Article 09-12-12


After installing the bushing, using a 15/64" bit, drill a hole in the side of the bushing by following the servo apply holes in the case 5R55S case shown.
Overdrive servo. (Figure 6)


Figure 6 - Article 09-12-12


Intermediate servo. (Figure 7)


Figure 7 - Article 09-12-12


NOTE: FAILURE TO PERFORM CROSS DRILL STEP IN THE NEW BUSHING WILL RESULT IN A NO SHIFT CONDITION.



Insert the provided sizing pin into the bore. It maybe necessary to start the pin in the bushing with a rubber mallet. Once the pin is inside the bushing, use a punch to drive the pin all the way through the bushing. Repeat as necessary. (Figure 8)


Figure 8 - Article 09-12-12


Correctly installed bushings will be flush inside of case. (Figure 9)


Figure 9 - Article 09-12-12



The 9/16" and 5/8" reamers require typical maintenance and cleaning of aluminum build up on the cutting edges to help provide optimum bushing installation and increased tool life.

After bushing installation, thoroughly wash the case before rebuilding transmission.


WARRANTY STATUS:
Information Only


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NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by "do-it-yourselfers". Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article. The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates. The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company's on-line technical resources.

Copyright © 2009 Ford Motor Company
 






swetrid i had the tranny shop put in new bushings and i got new servos but i am still getting 2 to 3 slip. everything is new but just the vb is not new. before the rebuilt i did not have the slip problem but before i rebuild the tranny tranny shop said all the cluths are new they said it can just ne the vb is sticking.....idk i am already looking into another truck
 






If all was done properly I would say could be band adjustment or possible valve body problem. They could remove valve body and see if valves are sticking or just replace it and hope it fixes it.
 






well i hope its the vb cuz all bands are new and i soked them in tranny fluid for a day and i did 10 ftlb then 2 back off. tranny said cuz i am only getting 2 to 3 slip and everything else is good it should be just a cloged valve or stickey valve
 






try some TransX, may fix your sticking valves if that is the problem. I use it as a preventive measure. Never has caused any problems for me.
 






tranny place said that it could be my valve body that is sticking or my 3rd gear clutch pack is no good.... maybe lucus or transX????
 






I've never used the lucas for auto tranny's, but the TransX that I use often is almost like a solvent rather than ATF. You can see how it could clean out your sticky valves. I just put in a 15 oz bottle in my explorer a few days ago. No problems.
 






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