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Hey, what's the best wax to use? I wanna get ride of the little swirls in my paint, and also some water spots. A year back I tried some new Turtle Wax stuff with a little Chip Stick as they called it, it was crap. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks!
 



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Try zaino works great for a nice shine
 












Neither one of the products above are waxes. One is a polymer the other is an acrylic. As for a wax, my choice would be S100. It can be bought at your local Harley dealer.
 






He's right. But S100 will probably give ya a durability of about 3 weeks. A lot shorter if the weather is nice and warm. The wax usually melt around 180 degrees so use Klasse, Zaino, or Blackfire before topping off with S100 or P21S.
 






I agree with everyone about using the S100 or PS1, I love the stuff. You could also try their paint cleaner, it's not very abrasive but ads to the depth of the shine.

To get rid of the Swirls and water marks the 3m Swirl Mark Remover is great, just be sure to follow the directions, or you may add more swirls. It is a diminishing abrasive so the more you work it in the less abrasive it gets. It should be worked until it almost dissapears.

Here's a couple of pictures of my x that I've used these products on.

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Looks good Erik!! Good work!!
 






The advice given so far has been pretty good. I thought I would throw in my $0.02.

I use Klasse on my Explorer and PS21s on my Corvette. I use different waxes on both vechicles b/c they get treated differently.

The Vette is garaged, hand washed only and gets waxed every month or two, so durability is not an issue. Also, I like the sizzle that a carnuba based wax gives the silver paint.

The Explorer goes several months between waxing, goes through car washes, and sits outside. I was looking for more durability so I went with Klasse for it. As stated above, it is not a wax, but an acrylic. The truck looks great, but the shine is a little sterile compared to the Vette.

My point is, first determine what you are going after, and then pick the products that will get you the results you want.

Good luck.
 






I like Duragloss, alot of carquests have it and some Napas. Try it and I think you will like it. very similar to Zaino for cheaper and easy to get. I actually like it better than Zaino after using Zaino for about 2 years I gave it a whirl and never looked back
 






Isn't duragloss one of those snake oil "it'll work for 5 years" products from Dura Lube? Stay away from junk like that if this is the case. It probably isn't half as effective as something like Zaino or Blackfire or Klasse.
 






I had a few questions and comments. I really need to learn more in this area, but what about McGuire's(s) or Mother's. I also was curious about different cleaners. At Autozone I saw a paint cleaner, scrap remover, and then a wax. There were three different "step" products offered by I think McGuire's. Also, I was at a car show and they had some of the miracle car wax "that the dealer's use". What do the dealers use and what is the story with this stuff.

Since we are discussing cleaning, what is that stuff called that is like a plastic coating on your tires and lasts for months. I would love to get some of that stuff. Has anyone use it.

What about glass pits? I saw on a car show that someone used polish on their glass. Was that metal polish or paint polish? I think he used a wax to finish it. Any car show people or detailers know the story on this.

One last thing...the rest..any crazy suggestions for metal and engine cleaning..how about those brake dust preventers? are they worth it?
 






Well, something that I've learned from years of detailing my own cars is that basically the stuff that you can buy at Autozone for $5.00 is crap. Companies like Meguiars that sell the more standardized stuff (a'la Turtle Wax, NuFinish etc) also have a professional line that is not as commonly sold in stores that is a good bit more expensive, but the products are much higher quality than what you buy in the store (The Meguiars Gold Class for instance). A great example is "Zymol". There are two types of Zymol, the cheap stuff you buy in the store, and the much more expensive imported version. You tend to get what you pay for and more "Gourmet" products are easier to work with, get better results and last longer.

Basically paint care is steps, there's the prep stage with washing, claying and cleaning the paint surface, then there's the repair stage where you remove swirls and such, the polishing stage and the finishing stage.

I made the big switch from Carnuaba wax a couple of years ago based on the advice of Gerald Jarrett to Zaino and have been VERY happy. I like polymers like Zaino because they're easy to use, and they are a lot more durable than the Carnuaba. I'm going to make the switch from Zaino to another sealant like Blackfire or this new stuff called "Poorboys EX" that we found on Autopia (www.autopia.org). My son and I have been spending some time on their boards finding out what to refill our detailing cabinet with. We've made some choices and are going to order a whole bunch of stuff today or tomorrow.

My advice is, go over to www.autopia.org those guys know it all about detailing. I know we have several members that are also members over there. I'm a member and my son is a member, but we don't post much. Myself, I think there's more than enough to just read! You might also want to look at www.properautocare.com they sell just about every product you could want, the professional grade stuff.

Have fun ;) And stay away from infomercial and car show crap!
 






O.K. Where to start:

McGuire's and Mother...They make good products there are better ones out there but for the price they're pretty good IMO.

The three step process is usually a paint cleaner a polish and a wax. How much this will do for you depends on the condition of your paint. If you have swirls and heavy oxidation a light paint cleaner won't cut it, you would have to move up to something more agressive such as 3M Swirl Mark Remover. The cleaner in the three step process is usually a chemical cleaner, and is very mildly abrasive. The polish is not abrasive and has fillers to hide swirl marks. The wax is just for shine and protection. But it's more about method and paint prep than it is about products.

As far as what wax a dealer uses it probably depends on the dealer, personally I would never let a dealer wax my car, but I'm pretty picky, I've seen some of the horror stories of dealer waxing brand new cars and swirling the hell out of the paint.

If your going to detail your engine I would just be carefule to protect anything that is sensive to water, electonics etc. I use a grease cutter or a cleaner like Simple Green.

Like Stephen says check out autopia it's a great site more info than you could ever need, just use the search function and you'll find what your looking for.
 






duragloss is made by Brothers Research, not anything related to Duralube. They don't claim anywhere how long it will last. As far as I am concerned I want to do a lab analysis of zaino vs duragloss because I 90% sure they are the same thing. they have all kinds of products not just some put it one once a year thing.
 












Originally posted by Stephen
I'm going to make the switch from Zaino to another sealant like Blackfire or this new stuff called "Poorboys EX" that we found on Autopia (www.autopia.org).

Stephen

Steve (Poorboy) is sending me some of the new EX and some Spray & Wipe for me to try. I've been very happy with the Blackfire, but after reading that thread on Autopia, I had to get some EX. I'll be doing some experimenting with it, hopefully this weekend if it shows up in time.

OK, done hijaking the thread. :D

Mike
 






go buy a good air plane wax from an air craft dealer.

Much more durable and lasts longer on cars than the traditional stuff. Pretty expensive. Use to have some and waxed once a year - not bad for a god forsaken salt hole like NJ
 






All good advise, but it really depends what you're looking for and how much time you're willing to devote.

I love the look of PS1/S100 on my dark X. I enjoy waxing my X once a month (or more). I do plan on trying some Zaino before the next Chicago winter.

Would I personally try airplane wax... probably not.
It is durable and would out last my wax, but the shine and depth isn't there, at least from what I've seen.

Experiment look around and find what works for you. You could give the same car to all of us and we'd all probably use a different combination of products. And all of us would get the car to look good, it's alot of personal preference.

But ....paint prep is the most important. A great wax on a poorly preped paint job will never look better than a cheap wax on a perfectly preped car.
 






I'm with Erik on this. I love S100!! Here's a pic of mine. It's still very shiny with pollen covered all over.

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'96explorereddiebauer, i like the pic with the 2 EB's next to each other. sweet! ;)
 






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