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check engine light flashes and rpm drop to 0?

KELLEY

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92 EXPLORER
ok my 92 explorer had just started doing this before the fuel pump went out now i just payed 300 dollars to replace fuel pump. so now as im driving down the road and get closer to 45 or 55 the truck jumps alittle check engine light comes on and rpm needle drops to 0 and it will do this for a few min till u either give it more gas and the u get a sick smell from the exaust or ease up on gas peddal till it quits... scared to drive it dont wont to mess something up but i have to get to work. plesae ill take any advise... no one wants to do a diagnose on a machine without charging beacause it is older than a 95 and i just chunked out 300 dollars please help :mad: :fire: :mad: :eek:
 



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Does it do it if the Transmission is in D, not OD, at that speed? Have you checked the tranny fluid level and condition?
 






yes it does it in d not over drive just had fluid level checked and alll fluids checked and toped off...tranny was just rebuild less than 2 years ago and had external fan put on....im desperate here
 






Knowing the code present would be the place to start.
 






"no one wants to do a diagnose on a machine without charging beacause it is older than a 95" -- The beauty of it being older than a '95 is you only need a paper clip to pull codes. See tests at www.dalidesign.com/hbook/eectest.html Instead of hooking up a voltmeter for the output device, the check engine light also flashes the codes, so you can use the check engine light as your output device.
 






ok i finally got the test and the codes are (koer) 116...172,,,538.............now i dont have a problem with overheating so he said those codes may be old........(koeo).212 no tac input to processor? spuot.122 tps to low..... he thinks maybe i need to change the vejicle speed sensor on my transmision this is the mobile mechanic we use here on my service vans at work i trust his judgement but would still like some input please.... no to pull heart string but im a mother of two and wife of a diabled man who was injured when our buick fell on him while working on it 3 years ago so i try not to involve him on this to much it stresses him out badly. any suggestions are welcome
 






KOER codes can't be "old" codes as they represent faults that occur during the test (in other words -- KOER codes aren't stored like memory codes). I would expect a 212 to be a continuous memory (CM) code rather than a KOEO code and will assume that you are not making a distinction between the two types of code. 122 could be either KOEO or CM, and it will be real useful to know which. To distinguish between KOEO and CM codes, KOEO codes are output at the start of the KOEO test before the separator pulse, CM codes are output after the separator pulse. That said, some specific comments on each code.
KOER 116 -- Usually this is a result of running the KOER test on a cold engine. Computer expects to see the engine near operating temperature for the KOER test.
KOER 538 -- Another operator error code. Almost always this code is because the operator neglected or missed the "goose" test portion of the KOER test.
KOER 172 -- Indicates a fault in the O2 sensor circuit. This code can easily be set by running the test on a cold engine (O2 sensor doesn't work until it warms up to something like 600 F).
Before spending too much time worrying about the KOER codes, I would suggest determining if the 122 is KOEO or CM. The normal diagnostic sequence is to resolve KOEO codes, then KOER codes, the CM codes.
I expect the 212 is the real cause of your troubles. Does the engine actually stall when it acts up, or does it continue to run while the tach reads 0? The fact that the problem seems to be intermittent leads me to believe you have a loose connection somewhere. Maybe the crankshaft position sensor circuit or one of the wires between the ignition module and the EEC-IV computer.
 






sometimes it stalls out usually u can give it a little mor gaas and it will settle or just drive the slow lane and not race up to speed just do it gradually and it will act ok...no i noticed at lunch today my gas guage jumped from quarter tank to full i know i only have a quater tank i love my truck but it is starting to kill me in the pockets...lol :mad: :fire: :confused: :roll:
 












94 Explorer Sport 4x4
Engine light flutters RPM jumping up to about 2 an half then dies, but restarts. The engine light doesn't stay on long enough to get a code.

Replaced fuel pump and PCM 2 months ago. No problems till tonight! Could it just be water in the gas trying to pas through then injectors? Threw 3 bottles of heat and B12 chem-tool in it.

hELP!
jupsag1971@yahoo.com
Nick
 






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